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Fixes #179076

Solution
When a modal dialog is present, temporarily move the existing aria-live element inside the modal dialog before making the announcement, then move it back afterward. A small delay is also added to allow VoiceOver to finish reading the button's accessible name first.

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Before (bug): https://flutter-demo-03-before.web.app
After (fix): https://flutter-demo-03-after.web.app

Testing
Enable VoiceOver (Cmd+F5 on macOS)
Open a dialog and click the "Announce" button
Verify the announcement is spoken after the button label

Next step
Filing a follow-up issue for: Adding a delay parameter to SemanticsService.announce() API for developers who need custom delays for long button labels

@github-actions github-actions bot added engine flutter/engine related. See also e: labels. a: accessibility Accessibility, e.g. VoiceOver or TalkBack. (aka a11y) platform-web Web applications specifically labels Dec 16, 2025
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Timer(announcementDelay, () {
ariaLiveElement.text = messageText;
});
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I'm not sure that I fully understand this delay. I would think that when we receive a request to announce something, we should announce it immediately.

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When a user clicks a button that triggers an announcement, voiceOver immediately starts reading the button's accessible name (for example, "Announce, button"). If we set the aria-live text immediately, VoiceOver tries to announce it at the same time. VoiceOver gets confused and drops one of the announcements (usually the aria-live one).The 500ms delay gives VoiceOver time to finish reading the button label before we inject the announcement text.

Without delay:
User clicks "Announce" button
VoiceOver: "Announce, button" ← aria-live update happens here, gets dropped
(silence - announcement lost)

With delay:
User clicks "Announce" button
VoiceOver: "Announce, button"
(500ms pause)
VoiceOver: "Your announcement message"

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I did some investigation and it turns out we do not need the 500ms delay value.

Investigation: Through systematic testing with different delay values (500ms → 100ms → 50ms → 20ms → 10ms → 5ms → 1ms → 0ms), I discovered:

  1. 0ms (synchronous): Doesn't work - VoiceOver doesn't announce

  2. Duration.zero with Timer: Works - VoiceOver announces correctly

Root Cause: VoiceOver needs the aria-live text to be set in a different event loop tick than the button click. Setting it synchronously interferes with VoiceOver's internal speech queue processing.

Fix: Use Timer(Duration.zero, ...) to defer setting the announcement text to the next event loop iteration.
This provides the minimum necessary delay.

Please check https://flutter-demo-03-after.web.app/

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LGTM

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