Σ Frame

Key Word: BASED Women!

Readership: Christian Men
Theme: Level Up!
Length: 2,400 words
Reading Time: 12 minutes

Intro

In times past, Manospherians and the general Red Pill wisdom warned men NOT to talk about Red Pill topics with women, simply because it turned them OFF in a major way.

Even recently, Rollo reiterated this rule of thumb in a post.

“It is always a mistake to explain the game of intersexual dynamics to women. I’ve written essays about this since 2014. Back then, I added a caveat: never talk about Red Pill concepts with women you want to get intimate with. If you didn’t care whether you ended up in bed with her or you were trying to hold a woman accountable for whatever reason, then have at it. But, by now, you should know you’ll never reason a woman into bed with you. Reason and virtue are anti-seductive because they rely on logically convincing a woman to sleep with you.”

Rollo Tomassi: Why Men Don’t Get It (2026/4/26)

In Rollo’s view, as I understand it, talking about Red Pill dynamics is unattractive because it breaks feminine delusions. It also breaks the 5^th Wall, thereby making one out to be an amateur geek and exposing one’s motivations for getting laid, as well as one’s personal weaknesses.  It also tends to place a spotlight on women’s sinful nature, thereby forcing the kind of confession that numbs the sexual tension that is so important for seducing women.

However, recently, I’ve seen a shift in this dynamic.  Although I have to say, maybe it’s only because I’m living in Taiwan, and the women here are much more Based than Western women.

Here are a few true-life anecdotes to support my case.