When I was a wee tyke, I considered what Mom and Dad did. Dad was a laborer who often worked in difficult conditions, sometimes in the cold. Mom stayed at home and tended to the family. I saw all of this, and thought that Mom had the better deal. She obviously liked her job. As for my Dad, we didn’t have that much in terms of material goods, but it was enough. I didn’t begrudge my Dad for not making more. And neither did my Mom.
When I got older, I helped my Dad at his job. My thoughts from years earlier were confirmed. The labor wasn’t particularly pleasant. All things considered, it was very clear that being a SAHM was better.
So that was my reaction way back then. It was a first reaction, and it would seem to be a correct reaction. I wonder if little girls ever thought of this back then. Or if they do now. It might not ever enter their minds, as propaganda might crowd it out.
Let me point out to the propagandists and their consumers, most men don’t have glorious and/or fun careers. And neither do the gals, though they have it on average better in the work world. Wouldn’t being a SAHM be great?
Spawny's Space 
I wonder if Hillary has had fun in her career…
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You don’t want to think too much about Hillary’s idea of fun.
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I wonder if she could sell the rights for a horror movie.
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On-topic
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Let me point out to the propagandists and their consumers, most men don’t have glorious and/or fun careers. And neither do the gals, though they have it on average better in the work world. Wouldn’t being a SAHM be great?
Tragically, your father and other men like him would probably be at best ignored by women today, and at worst mocked and belittled by them for being “just” a laborer. On the other hand it’s easy to imagine that a working man with even a shred of self-respect would find most of today’s women too odious to want to have anything whatsoever to do with.
So the women ignore and mock the working-class men while condemning themselves to a lifetime of doing what is essentially the same kind of work as male laborers, except in a cubicle rather than outdoors.
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“Mom stayed at home and tended to the family.”
I’m afraid this is beyond my ken.
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I am sorry to hear that
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“Mom stayed at home and tended to the family.”
My mother was a second wave feminist. Though my father made enough money for the family, she worked from the home. Her job did not pay for anything beyond the costs of her job, and whatever was left over was squirreled away as “her money” just in case my father tried to divorce her and leave her destitute. It was never phrased this way, but it was “her money” to be used in “emergencies”. I filled in the gaps with all the New Woman magazines in the house that talked about how women needed their own stash because they could at any moment be abandoned by their husbands and left penniless.
Because she worked from the house and had students filing in and out from early afternoon to early evening, I was not welcome to roam the house freely. I was left in the room furthest from her workroom, which was my parents’ bedroom. It had a TV and an extensive pornography collection my father maintained in place of a sex life (I assume). Being cooped up in that room for three to four hours a day, of course I found it, and thus my journey into adult sexual relations was kickstarted before I hit my teens.
She was too tired to cook, what with having just finished work, so my father cooked for us when he got home from work.
Happily, she never had to use her emergency fund due to dying from Suddenly. My father is burning through it before he loses his faculties and can’t enjoy it anymore, or dies from Suddenly himself.
Naturally, these are observations made with older eyes. Growing up, this was all perfectly normal.
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Did you perceive other kids being in the same boat?
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Her job did not pay for anything beyond the costs of her job, and whatever was left over was squirreled away as “her money” just in case my father tried to divorce her and leave her destitute
Probably those feminist magazines didn’t explain that this didn’t normally happen
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I filled in the gaps with all the New Woman magazines in the house
My Mom had “Better Homes and Gardens”. Though I am sure some Feminist silliness was starting to leak in
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“Did you perceive other kids being in the same boat?”
I guess I never really thought about it. I couldn’t invite folks to the house, and we lived in a neighborhood that didn’t have many kids, and those that were around were significantly more well off than I was, so we didn’t really mingle much beyond school.
The two friends I spent time with both had mothers that were at home, which didn’t really strike me as odd. I assumed they were busy doing whatever it is they did. My friends did have the run of the house, which I thought was nice.
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Can we all just admit that Feminist thinking leads to unhappiness?
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It is odd that the pr0n collection was access able to you. I would have thought that most people would have tried to hide it.
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Who is “we?”
All women are feminists so they can’t agree. About half of men are white knights, so they aren’t part of we.
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“I would have thought that most people would have tried to hide it.”
They were hidden in plain sight amongst piles of other magazines that my mother wasn’t interested in. Byte, Omni, Computer World, etc. Unfortunately, these were magazines I was interested in, so I eventually found them by virtue of reading the science and tech magazines until I reached the porn section.
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[W]omen needed their own stash because they could at any moment be abandoned by their husbands and left penniless.
“Abandoned by their husbands and left penniless.” 🤔🤔
It couldn’t possibly be that turning into an insufferable, ball-busting feminist harpy beeyotch with an adversarial attitude had something to do with that happening, coud it?
Nah, not a chance. WHat a stupid thought! Men ALWAYS abandon their wives and families after a few years to go after “newer, younger models” and leave their offspring to be raised by a succession of strange men. It’s just how God and nature programmed them, right?
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“Men ALWAYS abandon their wives and families after a few years to go after “newer, younger models” and leave their offspring to be raised by a succession of strange men.”
Absolutely! It was in all the movies and TV shows!
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Can we all just admit that Feminist thinking leads to unhappiness?
ADMIT it? Are you nuts? And tear away the curtain to expose the evil wizard behind it? To ADMIT that Satan’s lies are harmful, that our Satan-controlled overlords and their feminism weapon are HURTING everyone?
Know it viscerally and admit it deep down inside while keeping it to ourselves, sure. But to ADMIT it? You should be burned at the stake for advocating that kind of heresy!
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Absolutely! It was in all the movies and TV shows!
They seem so real!
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“Men ALWAYS abandon their wives and families after a few years to go after “newer, younger models” and leave their offspring to be raised by a succession of strange men.”
It makes for good drama. Guys don’t normally like drama
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Dad worked; mom stayed home with us. She had two children in rapid succession in the first 2 years of their marriage, so she quit her teaching job and stayed home with us. There was no such thing as widespread available day care in 1968.
Dad was an “alpha” at work; owned his own business; but was a complete beta at home. Mom ran and supervised every detail of our home life for her husband and 3 kids. We’d call it “topping from the bottom”. She ruled with her temper. She was an undiagnosed borderline personality with violent mood swings. Anything that set her off caused volcanic eruption-like tantrums. She blamed it on her Type 2 diabetes. Dad just put up with it; just what he had to do to get and stay married. Every 6 months or so he’d stand up to her and put her in her place; and she’d do what Dad asked for a week or so. In a couple of weeks everything went back to “normal”, with mom ruling the roost by threatening to explode if she didn’t get her way and Dad coming down on a ton of bricks on me so as to keep her from exploding. Dad would do whatever it took to placate her temper.
Everyone was required to do whatever Mom wanted and demanded, OR ELSE.
Like CP’s story up there, I’m telling you this through older eyes, and after realizing how well adjusted people live life and conduct their interpersonal relationships. But to a 14 year old high school freshman, all this was just how our lives were. To me, this was just “normal life”.
It wasn’t until I was 43 years old and 15 years of marriage to a woman like Mom in a lot of ways that I didn’t have to live like that and I don’t have to put up with that shit.
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She was an undiagnosed borderline personality with violent mood swings
I am sorry that you had to grow up with that
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Everyone was required to do whatever Mom wanted and demanded, OR ELSE
Dad would have had to take quite a gamble to do anything about it after it had gone so far.
I wonder if it could have been done at the time.
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Mom didn’t hold money over dad’s head. Mom had to submit to dad when it came to money. No, the Sword of Damocles Mom wielded was “I’ll Hulk out”.
“If I don’t get what I want, I’ll get angry. Don’t make me angry. You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry.”
And Dad could almost never find it in himself to stand up to her and impose consequences on her, except once every few months or so. She knew all she had to do was ride it out and she could go back to ‘normal’. He could never put down rules for his own home. He could never tell his wife not to treat him that way and that he wouldn’t put up with it. On the contrary, not only did he put up with it; he enabled and empowered it.
I did hear mom once tell me if dad ever cheated on her, she’d “take him to the cleaners”. It wasn’t until years later I had a chuckle about that. We grew up lower middle class. There wouldn’t have been anything for mom to take other than a 100 year old house and a 10 year old car with bald tires.
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I did hear mom once tell me if dad ever cheated on her, she’d “take him to the cleaners”.
So sentimental
So loyal
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Dad would have had to take quite a gamble to do anything about it after it had gone so far.
I wonder if it could have been done at the time.
Don’t know. It was his marriage. He ran it the way he chose. He chose to tolerate the behavior. And mind you – I can tell you only what I saw and what I know. I don’t know everything that went on between them.
I just know I had to choose a different way. I just know I couldn’t take it anymore. After some reading manosphere/red pill content, I concluded I didn’t have to live with neverending sexual deprivation and temper tantrums, and it would change or I would have no alternative but to seek divorce.
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Back then there wasn’t any widely available red-pill knowledge. It could have blown up and everybody thought that he was nuts. There is a question as to how it would have turned out for the kids under such circumstances.
These days, there are huge swaths of people who recognize the issues that women have. A built-in potential support group
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The only thing men can do now, really, is walk away. Which is what they are doing, mostly after having been sent away by the women they pursued. They were sent away because they’re not sexually attractive.
Most men will be alone going forward because they aren’t sufficiently sexually attractive to attract and keep a woman. They’re just not. We need to start being honest about that. We in the churches need to start being honest about this with young men.
“Hey, the church and all of society pretty much lied to you – if you work hard and get a good job and are nice and kind and follow Jesus and pray, that’s not enough to attract even a so-called “Christian” woman. It is not enough and it’s never been enough. You have to be good looking and refuse to put up with bullshit; or you have to put up with a woman’s bullshit and allow her to use and exploit you. Sorry everyone lied to you, but that’s how it is. My recommendation is to forget about marriage and fatherhood because well, it’s probably not going to happen for you. You don’t have what it takes for a long term relationship with an American Christian woman.”
That’s what we need to be telling men now.
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“Movies and TV.” Also songs. One song I didn’t like but filled the culture in the 80s was, “Tell Her About it,” by Billy Joel. I was turning it off today when I caught hold of the lyrics. I don’t think I had paid attention previously, but that is one Blue Pill song.
Excerpt,
“You’re a big boy now
You’ll never let her go
But that’s just the kind of thing
She ought to know
Tell her about it
Tell her everything you feel
Give her every reason to accept
That you’re for real
Tell her about it
Tell her all your crazy dreams
Let her know you need her
Let her know how much she means
Listen boy
It’s not automatically a certain guarantee
To insure yourself
You’ve got to provide communication constantly
When you love someone
You’re always insecure
And there’s only one good way
To reassure
Tell her about it
Let her know how much you care
When she can’t be with you
Tell her you wish you were there
Tell her about it
Every day before you leave
Pay her some attention
Give her something to believe
‘Cause now and then
She’ll get to worrying
Just because you haven’t spoken
For so long
Though you may not have done anything
Will that be a consolation when she’s gone.”
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Yeah. “Tell Her About It” was from An Innocent Man, released in 1983. Joel had been separated from his first wife and his divorce was final the year before. He had just started a relationship with Christie Brinkley and would go on to marry her in 1985.
“Tell Her About It” was a long, long way from his Long Island bad boy, “Big Shot”, “Still Rock and Roll to Me”; “Pressure”, and “You May Be Right” roots. This is the guy who sang about walking through Bedford-Stuy alone and riding his motorcycle in the rain. This is the guy who sang about Strangers and the masks we wear. This is the guy who told drunk hung over women “don’t come bitchin’ to me”.
The Billy Joel Songbook is a study in Red Pill to Blue Pill to Black Pill and back to Red Pill again.
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Don’t forget “Captain Jack”, either – a song about addiction and escape.
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One song I didn’t like but filled the culture in the 80s was, “Tell Her About it,” by Billy Joel. I was turning it off today when I caught hold of the lyrics. I don’t think I had paid attention previously, but that is one Blue Pill song.
Bear in mind, too, that Billy Joel has been destroyed by three ex-wives. If there’s any man you DON’T want to take relationship advice from, it’s the Piano Man.
And then there’s “Uptown Girl,” a song about a guy with so little self-respect that he’s pursuing an arrogant bitchlet who not only doesn’t even know he exists, but wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire even if she did know.
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Billy Joel admits to having attempted suicide a couple of times in the early 1970s before he hit it big in 1973 with “Piano Man”. He was an active alcoholic for decades. So, yeah – it wasn’t just that his wives destroyed him; it was that he was destroying himself. Typical of creative artists who get really big. Their money, fame, and influence act as effective insulators from consequences for a long, long time. That’s not to say his wives were perfect – far from it.
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“Men ALWAYS abandon their wives and families after a few years to go after “newer, younger models”
Most of the 60s men were not “Mad Men”
Most were quite a bit like my dad
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It has always been thus, that most men did not cheat on their wives. The stereotype of the office executive chasing his unwilling secretary around his desk is the stuff of movies and harridans’ fevered imaginations.
Most men have never cheated on their wives simply because they can’t cheat. They’re not sexually attractive enough to attract a woman to cheat on their wives with. They don’t have what it takes to cheat on a woman. They don’t have the looks, the balls, or the means to cheat.
It has NEVER been the case that most men cheated on their wives. It is not now the case that more men cheat than women cheat. Women have pretty much pulled even with men on that score.
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Whenever the Prof “likes” something I write here, it ends up misrepresented and lied about over at the other place. Go figure.
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“Women have pretty much pulled even with men on that score.”
I think it far more likely that women are far ahead of men on that score. Chadrone doesn’t limit himself to one woman, and genetic records as well as hospital and legal policy would suggest pregnancies outside of a marriage are not exactly shocking.
I do not accept that men as a group ever cheated more than women as a group. Quite the opposite.
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I wrote about the Joel song for the lyrics, because they capture the mindset of that decade regarding how men thought of women. Deti has covered the movies from that time, but Joel was middle class America.
We should’ve figured out then, that Joel didn’t wet the girl’s panties, Van Halen and Billy Idol did though.
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“I do not accept that men as a group ever cheated more than women as a group. Quite the opposite.”
And like Deti, I think this is more a matter of opportunity than anything else. Women are looking for Mr. Big, while Mr. Big is looking for Ms. Right Now.
The result is fewer men cheating with more women.
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Ask Bill Clinton about that
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Mark my words: Most men who cheated on their wives did so with hookers. And that’s just men with disposable income to spend on hookers.
most men are not and never have been sexually attractive enough even to get their own wives to fuck them. To say nothing of getting women they are not married to to fuck them while those men are married to someone else.
Most men don’t cheat, because they can’t cheat. They’re not sexually attractive enough. They don’t have the money for it. They don’t have the looks, the balls, the guts, or the means to cheat.
If sex were as easy for men to get as it is for women, most men would cheat. They’d do it.
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Apparently, there is a complete news blackout regarding the story I linked to yesterday. The mother of a female student snuck a knife into the Gompers Elementary-Middle School, near Detroit, and handed it off to her daughter, who then used it to slash and stab a Black girl four times, before she was subdued. Now y’all know that if the guilty mother and daughter were White, this would be the top story in the whole nation today, even overshadowing Trump’s tentative Middle East peace deal, and that even achieving complete world peace will never get Trump a Nobel prize. LOL
I saw the Black mother of the victim on TV, and there was not one word mentioned about racism, so we know the attacker must be Black. It also seems like the two girls had an altercation of some sort before and the one girl had been suspended for a couple of days. Her mother was bringing her daughter back to school after the suspension and provided her with a knife to go kill her classmate, whom she had previously fought with.
The metal-alarm went off when the mom went through the metal detector, but apparently the security guard declined to search the woman further. (Likely because she was Black and inclined to start causing a lot of trouble if she was treated as a potential threat.) And that mom is later seen on video slipping something to her daughter.
Nobody is forthcoming with the names of the guilty mother nor the daughter, nor their mugshots. Which in itself is effectively proof positive that they’re Black.
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There is zero national news concerning a mother helping her daughter to sneak a knife past her school’s metal detectors. Which the daughter then used to make a potentially deadly strike, slashing across the side of the neck of another Black girl. All I can find is local news about the incident:
I’m sure I’m not the only person in the nation who would want to know more about this case, as it is seemingly a new low, indicative of what is going on in the overly entitled minds of a certain subculture.
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“The Community” is seemingly speaking of this incident as though it is a failure of security protocol and security personnel. Or at least that’s what is being reported.
Nobody is talking about if there is any failure of a community that raises people to be like this. When I was a kid there was no “security” at any of my schools. We didn’t need wardens and metal detectors. And we were even allowed to bring pocketknives to school. Yet nobody ever got stabbed. In Highschool some kids had guns in their gunracks in the parking lot, yet nobody got shot.
What’s the Left’s next great idea? Anal cavity searches before entering school?
FWIW you can buy ceramic knives and plastic daggers that can get past any metal detector. “Metal” isn’t the problem at these schools.
Sending your kid to a “day prison” full of future felons, is tantamount to child abuse.
Parents need to take steps to keep their children away from folks who are not held accountable. You know who I mean, Boo Boo.
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Allow me to put on my insensitivity hat:
Can black on black crime be news?
Evidence suggests it is not.
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If metal were the real problem at school, Steel Panther could solve it.
{Language Warning} — NSFW
Remember when you could threaten death to various celebrities in your lyrics? ‘Twas back before the Leftists all went feral, making such threats a genuine concern.
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There is a new thread
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It all began when Morgan posed a question that should be simple enough for anyone outside a gender studies seminar: “Can a woman have a penis?”
“Yes,” Polanski said without hesitation. When Morgan paused, Polanski doubled down, mumbling that it would “take them a long time on the National Health Service to get rid of it,” before adding that it was “another separate problem.”
Morgan, ever the provocateur, couldn’t resist summing it up: “All right, I think we’ll leave it on a woman can have a penis.”
At that point, Polanski accused Morgan of lacking “nuance and complexity about a pretty complicated conversation.” But Morgan didn’t buy it. “Not really,” he shot back. “You couldn’t have been clearer.”
Polanski then tried to cloak his position in pseudo-intellectual jargon. “I’m clear because actually when you want to look at the science—” he began, before Morgan interrupted: “You were crystal clear. I asked you a simple question.”
Polanski protested that Morgan was “laughing” at him — which he was, and rightfully so
https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/10/10/piers-morgan-almost-lost-it-after-green-party-leader-made-crazy-claim-about-gender-n4944710
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Blackwater founder calls Pope Leo’s bluff, asks him to fund militia to defend Christians in Nigeria
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2025/10/09/blackwater-founder-calls-pope-leos-bluff-asks-him-to-fund-militia-to-defend-christians-in-nigeria-1591395/
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The Democrat Party is power hungry, but at least one member doesn’t understand how electricity is generated. On Friday, Democrat social media influencer Chris Mowrey went after Republican Virginia gubernatorial candidate Winsome Earle-Sears, claiming she was scientifically illiterate. Why? Because she doesn’t share his bizarre belief that solar panels work at night, and that no wind is needed for windmills to generate energy.
https://twitchy.com/warren-squire/2025/10/10/dem-chris-mowrey-doesnt-know-windmills-need-wind-and-solar-panels-need-sun-to-work-n2420193
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TRON: Ares REVIEW. Worse than you could possibly imagine.
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This is a real thing that happened. The Vancouver Board of Parks and Recreation on Tuesday apologized to the TGD2S community for a Harry Potter-themed event they will hold in November.
What is a TGD2S? I had to look it up. It means transgender, gender diverse, and two-spirited people.
https://notthebee.com/article/vancouver-board-apologizes-to-tgd2s-community-for-allowing-harry-potter-event-at-local-park
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CNN host Anderson Cooper dropped a bombshell on Thursday, admitting that New York Attorney General Letitia James purposefully targeted President Donald Trump. Conservatives have said this for what feels like forever, but the radical left and their media allies mocked us for it.
https://pjmedia.com/michaelcantrell/2025/10/10/cnns-anderson-cooper-makes-huge-admission-about-letitia-james-n4944723
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“It means transgender, gender diverse, and two-spirited people.”
When LGBT+ isn’t exclusionary enough.
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Double bonus victim points
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“When LGBT+ isn’t exclusionary enough.”
“Piss off! Judean People’s Front…. We’re the People’s Front of Judea!”
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TRON: ARES SPOILER REVIEW | Film Threat
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Ohio legislature introduces law to ban people from marrying AI
https://notthebee.com/article/ohio-legislature-introduces-law-to-ban-people-from-marrying-ai
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Afghan Migrant Found Guilty of Threatening to Kill Nigel Farage
https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2025/10/10/afghan-migrant-found-guilty-of-threatening-to-kill-nigel-farage-n3807716
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Georgia Man with Severe TDS ARRESTED After Video Shows Him Tearing Down Trump Banner, Then Opening Fire on Business Owner
https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2025/10/10/afghan-migrant-found-guilty-of-threatening-to-kill-nigel-farage-n3807716
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House Majority Whip Tom Emmer (R-MN) criticized Democrats and left-wing journalists for supporting the upcoming “Hate American Rally” being held next week.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/10/10/exclusive-house-gop-whip-tom-emmer-slams-dems-reporters-for-support-of-hate-america-rally/
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fewer men cheating with more women.
Sums it up perfectly.
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There is zero national news concerning a mother helping her daughter to sneak a knife past her school’s metal detectors.
Blacks assaulting, maiming, and killing other blacks is not news.
Blacks NOT assaulting, maiming, or killing other blacks for a prolonged period of time would be earth-shattering news. News, however, that no MSM outlet would ever report, because peace amongst and within the races doesn’t support the prevailing satanic narrative.
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