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This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. Please use /lit/ for discussions of literature. Threads should be about specific topics, and the creation of "general" threads is discouraged.

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Why couldn't the Soviets do this? Is it just because Communism sucks? Are Slavs simply not capable of this? Low IQ could explain it perhaps?
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>>18560424
Because someone else just happened to do it faster and then their political leadership lost interest.
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>>18560433
>Because someone else just happened to do it faster
Didn't they have a head start though?
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>Is it just because Communism sucks?
It's literally this. More specifically what happened was the Soviet Military Industrial Complex became bloated and full of bureaucrats once the Cold War started, aiming to abuse Cold War paranoia to farm for government contracts just like the Americans. Except unlike the Americans, the Soviets never had the foresight to create a Civilian Space Agency like NASA, and so as a result, Civilian science teams found themselves competing with the military for launch contracts, leaving civilian science projects in the dust, which would've included a moon mission, in favor of military projects like the Almaz program. Under the Soviet system, the only way to make real money and not die in poverty like the rest of the proles was to join the military industrial complex. In the US, civilian science was taken far more seriously because private entities had a real interest in supporting civilian research for their own benefit.
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>>18560424
Russian culture sucks. That's why.

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Why do theists sperg out if you simply don't find a few specific abstract philosophical arguments convincing?
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>>18557981
Dawkins didn't seem that smug when he met Jeffrey Epstein.
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>>18558122
Nope. The second I "die" I'm going straight to heaven.
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>>18557981
stop spamming /mu/ with religion threads
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>>18557988
'bad faith' shut the fuck up
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>>18557981
I'm fine with atheists who have a good rational position.

The problem is they usually base their belief on Enlightenment/Protestant propaganda that's been debunked without knowing it, though. Or on very poor understanding of religion, or even science/biology. Or they hold Christian values but vehemently deny it.

Agnostics are the worst imo, existence of God/gods is an important topic, you owe it to yourself to think it through and reexamine it periodically.

am I schizophrenic or just happens that USA is a country created by satanists and they won WW1 and WW2 and we are living in a world created by those satanists?
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>>18560388
You’re a schizo anon.
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>>18560388
You are not schizophrenic but you were exposed to amygdala-triggering facts and built a schizo narrative for fun and to larp.

Focus on God and not on temporal memes, we're just humans mucking about. Love God, love self, love neighbour, be a lamp to everyone including sinners, don't listen to false preachers, judge them by their fruits (alt-right - paranoia, fear, hate, division; same for other vocal schizos like radical left)
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>>18560430
But if Satan has followers, I'd assume most are in USA
Because look at what they did in WW2 and then in Korea war, Vietnam, etc. Not to mention the past 20 years exporting the idea people can change genders. Lots of suicides happened because of americans business think is a good idea sell hormones to kids
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>>18560388
You're indeed a schizo and this board is not your safe place. Seek therapy, otherwise simply fuck off.
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>>18560440
You're schizophrenic, and Satan isn't even supposed to be the "God of Evil" anyways. You're a profoundly stupid and browncoed poster

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How much damage to the liberal consensus could 1 motivated billionaire by funding like actually research into race, ethnicity, history, anthropology, sociology whatever just funding actual research that is currently banned
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Truth doesn't fear investigation anon. The problem is most people doing/funding research purely on the basis of it being "consensus damaging" are usually grifters and/or schizos because that's just not an appropriate attitude to have when conducting research. It leads to deductive reasoning in order to fit square pegs into round holes just so your hypothesis holds up because it makes for more eye-catching headlines. True academics welcome their hypothesis being disproven and all that.
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>nordicist kike
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>>18560211
What research is banned OP
>>18560226
>imagine what Rudyard Lynch would do if he were given merely ten million.
I imagine he could do quite a lot of drugs if you gave him ten million dollars, true
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>>18560211
Virtually none. General consensus isn't driven by scientific studies. People who are racist are generally racist due to strong emotional reactions to other races, they didn't start out as a blank slate who turned out racist after their quietly sat down and sifted through crime statistics. People, even and sometimes especially people who view themselves as rational are primarily driven through emotion. Scientific studies that support their positions are used post-hoc to rationalize their beliefs, they were not the reason they got there in the first place. If you wanted to use money to change public consensus about race and sociology then you would be better off just posting non-stop chimpouts all over social media until people in the middle drift further right.
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>>18560211
>>18560359
mostly true and best reply here.

the problem with right wing sociological and anthropological views is that they’re empirically disproven. mainstream academia isn’t gonna be afraid of being challenged. (i.e genetic determinism, Primordialism, bioessentialism, etc). Like Anon here said, humans aren’t driven by reason and the reason dominant, yet false viewpoints persist in society isn’t because the masses reason towards their justification through data, but by emotional agitation.

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Whats up with the Cromwell raid?
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>>18558346
That is a fabrication. He was at the Siwa oasis and only men are allowed there.
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>>18560353
More for your consideration. You can disregard the past couple of years of bs entirely as it was never necessary in the first place.
Gringos need to learn their place.
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>>18560357
Follow up post meant for
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Never again take assets that were helped to develop by other nations and then forcibly to claim them for yourselves by making up a bunch of connections that completely go against the being of that asset for incredibly selfish and unnecessary reasons.

We need a several year reversal, and I dont see enough has been done to go back.

It was much better before.

You want kino? Then get out already.
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Reminder that there are now more Catholic churchgoers in Britain than Anglicans. Amongst the youth, Catholics outnumber Anglicans by more than 2 to 1.

Looks like the Pope won again!

What the fuck was the point of fighting to try and "liberate" this shithole when the population hates the rest of the island and would rather be part of the UK?
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>>18560417
Your loyalist obsession is due to the fact that republicans have no culture
Loyalists do orange marches and republicans have ripped them off and started their own green marches
Loyalists do bonfires where they burn irish flags so republicans have started their own bonfires where they burn british flags
its fucking pathetic. sad, immature behaviour. hating people and then imitating their actions
>YOU are the one on the decade long crusade against strangers on the internet, anon
i shitpost on this site when i'm at work. these posts take me less than a minute to make. you are the obsessed one here
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>>18560420
>Your loyalist obsession is due to the fact that republicans have no culture
I don't have a Loyalist obsession, anon.
>Loyalists do orange marches and republicans have ripped them off and started their own green marches
Loyalists did not invent marching, anon. The disso larp marches always look like they've shat themselves to me though kekked
>Loyalists do bonfires where they burn irish flags so republicans have started their own bonfires where they burn british flags
Internment bonfires and 11th July bonfires are for very different things, anon. Neither invented bonfires. Internment bonfires began because of internment.
>you are the obsessed one here
Sorry anon, your deranged manner of spamming on this site do you no favours in your efforts to portray others as unhinged obsessive faggots

All this being said, you are acting as if Belfast isn't about to be host Fleadh Cheoil na hÉireanh with the closing event taking place in East Belfast and including the Beersbridge Road. Irish culture is alive and well in Belfast! Hope you get out to have fun.
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It's almost the twelfth again.
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>>18560427
>I don't have a Loyalist obsession, anon.
You do. It's clear but literally all of your posts and the passive aggressive tone you make them in.
>Loyalists did not invent marching, anon. The disso larp marches always look like they've shat themselves to me though kekked
If you seriously think republican green marches aren't just a shitty aldi ripoff of orange marches then you are retarded
>Internment bonfires and 11th July bonfires are for very different things, anon. Neither invented bonfires. Internment bonfires began because of internment.
If you seriously think republican bonfires aren't just a shitty aldi ripoff of eleventh night bonfires then you are retarded
>Sorry anon, your deranged manner of spamming on this site do you no favours in your efforts to portray others as unhinged obsessive faggots
These posts take me a minute to make. You spend hours spamming.
All this being said, you are acting as if the 12th isn't coming soon. Ulster, Scotland and the Northwest of England will soon be echoing to the sound of drums. Orange culture is alive and well in Britain! Hope you get out to have fun.
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>>18560434
It is! But remember it happens on Monday, not Sunday (the 12th).
>>18560435
>You do.
One deranged obsessive /int/fag's views on me aren't very troubling lad.
>If you seriously think republican green marches aren't just a shitty aldi ripoff of orange marches then you are retarded
I think they have been shitty ever since they started doing their faggy bow legged "marching", but no anon, people have been marching in Ireland for a very long time. Orangemen didn't invent it.
>If you seriously think republican bonfires aren't just a shitty aldi ripoff of eleventh night bonfires then you are retarded
Anon, they are called internment bonfires. They started in the early 1970s, marking internment. The 11th of July has nothing to do with it kekked.
>These posts take me a minute to make. You spend hours spamming.
Yes anon, I put effort into my posts because I enjoy talking about history, on /his/, the history board. I'm aware you struggle to comprehend this, but I did include a list of great books for you to inform yourself about Loyalism >>18560417
>you are acting as if the 12th isn't coming soon
Comes every year lad, although it's a shame that Unionists haven't been able to detatch it from paramilitary autism in the way Féile an Phobail has against Internment bonfires. Some years, Belfast doesn't see a single bonfire for internment.
>Hope you get out to have fun.
It's a Monday so I'll be working, anon.

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What are the historical reasons for the invincible power of BOLSHEVISM to crush, rape and genocide nazi gangsters without mercy in one of the most one-sided conflict in history?
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>>18551982
Slavic will to power
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>>18551982
The infinitne might of Judeo Bolshevism always crushes nazitroons
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>>18551982
the power of Bolshevism always wins and rape nazis
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>>18551982
Indomitable Russian spirit and only that
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It's always (gay) rape with russians.

I see far more blond haired and blue eyed Slavs than I do Germans.
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>>18560409
>Consequently, Jews also began to translate Slavus/Sclāvus as "Canaanite." As a result, the Slavs were referred to as Canaanites by figures such as Nathan ben Jechiel of Rome (c. 1035–1106) in the Arukh—a dictionary that was fundamental for Jews at the time; Shlomo ben Yitzhak of Troyes (1039–1105) in his biblical commentary on Deuteronomy 3:9; Benjamin of Tudela (12th century), a traveler and demographer; Yitzhak ben Moshe of Vienna (c. 1180–1260) in Or Zarua; Solomon Luria of Poznań (1510–1573) in Yam shel Shlomo (Chullin 5:4); and many others

>Jews explained the origins of the Slavs by positing that they were a group of Canaanites who had migrated to Eastern Europe during the time of Joshua. This view was held by leading Jewish scholars of subsequent centuries: Abraham ibn Ezra of Toledo (c. 1090–1167) in his commentary on Obadiah 1:20; David Kimhi of Narbonne (1160–1235)—also a biblical commentator, grammarian, and philosopher; and Elijah ben Asher ha-Levi Ashkenazi (1468–1549)—one of the first modern textual critics of the Old Testament, an author of treatises on Hebrew grammar and biblical translations, and a teacher of Cardinal Egidio da Viterbo—who addressed this in his dictionary Tishbi under the entry "Canaan."

>Thus, in the Middle Ages and the early modern period, Slavs were regarded by Jews as authentic Canaanites—the cursed descendants of Ham and slaves to the Semites. In the Middle Ages, the view that the Slavs descended from Ham also served as a justification for the Germans to enslave the Western Slavs

>As they conquered the Polabian Slavs, German rulers of the Saxon dynasty took over the practice of procuring Slavic slaves from the Jews; Jewish merchants, in turn, purchased them from the Germans along the Elbe and dispatched caravans to the Rhine Valley
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>>18560412
>Prof. Janusz Tazbir noted that "some German chroniclers traced the Slavs back to Ham, an assertion that presupposed their subordination to the Germans—descendants of Japheth". This view was challenged in both Bohemia and Poland. In the 14th century, Giovanni de' Marignolli clarified in his Chronicon Bohemorum that "the Slavs and Czechs descend from Japheth, our father, and not from Ham, as some claim."

>A century later, Jan Długosz—who, in his Annales seu cronicae incliti Regni Poloniae, detailed the lineage of the Slavs (including the Poles) from Japheth—also observed that "some believe Ham to be the father of the Poles and all Slavs."

>According to the legend of Sarmatism, the nobility of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth traced their origins to the ancient Sarmatians, who had conquered the territories of the future Commonwealth in ages past. The Sarmatian knights enslaved the local Slavic population and established themselves as the nobility

>Sarmatian nobles were said to descend from Japheth, Jews from Shem, and peasants from Ham. Sarmatism superimposed this tripartite division of the Polish population onto the medieval social model—clergy, knights, and peasants—paraphrasing a concept by Honorius of Autun. Marcin Bielski wrote as follows in his Chronicle of the Whole World (Kronika wszytkiego świata): "At that time, the entire human race was divided into three estates by Noah’s decree: namely, priests, knights, and peasants or servants, as you can see in this illustration: 'You, Shem, be devout like a priest; you, Japheth, defend like a knight; you, Ham, toil like a peasant"

>Maciej Stryjkowski reiterated this view in his Chronicle of Poland, Lithuania, Samogitia and All Rus’ (Kronika Polska, Litewska, Żmudzka i wszystkiej Rusi), stating that Noah, while blessing his sons, said to Ham: "Plough the land and attend to the tasks befitting other forms of husbandry and craftsmanship, as a peasant does"
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>>18560412
>Thus, in the Middle Ages and the early modern period, Slavs were regarded by Jews as authentic Canaanites—the cursed descendants of Ham and slaves to the Semites. In the Middle Ages, the view that the Slavs descended from Ham also served as a justification for the Germans to enslave the Western Slavs

>As they conquered the Polabian Slavs, German rulers of the Saxon dynasty took over the practice of procuring Slavic slaves from the Jews; Jewish merchants, in turn, purchased them from the Germans along the Elbe and dispatched caravans to the Rhine Valley

Looks like the Germans were always there for their greatest ally. They even helped them with enslaving the gentiles and destroying their pagan cultures!
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>>18558295
>on Germans and Jews
Jews only excel at parasitim, they don't work.
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>>18560418
>In Latin, the saying goes: "Tu, Sem, ora; Cham, labora; Japhet, rege et protege" (thus assigning to Japheth—the "ancestor of the nobility"—the role of not merely "defending" but also "ruling"). Professor Stanisław Pigoń, a historian of Polish literature, argued that at that time—in conjunction with this concept—"the word cham became an abusive synonym for a peasant due to Jewish notions," in which the designation "Canaanites" (slaves) was "transferred to the Slavs (Slavi–Sclavi), thereby equating them with the Hamites"

>Mateusz Mieses, a linguist and historian of Polish Jewry, argued that the view tracing the peasants of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth back to Ham was not a product of Sarmatism; rather, it was rooted in the original biblical understanding of the Curse of Ham—which burdened the Canaanites themselves—and entered the noble mindset via Jewish influence. Consequently, this belief was the cause, rather than the result, of the Sarmatian legend regarding the nobility's distinct originn

>Given the earlier legend—created and popularized by Jews—that traced the Slavs' lineage to Canaan, the Polish nobility did not wish to be perceived as the indigenous inhabitants of Poland and Rus—that is, as Canaanites, Hamites, and slaves

>Therefore, in the process of shaping its estate identity, it transformed the earlier, widely accepted view regarding the origin of the Slavs—tracing them to Sarmatia and, biblically, to Japheth (a theory propagated in the chronicles of Jan Długosz, Maciej Miechowita, and Marcin Kromer)—into a legend of Sarmatian-Japhetic origin belonging exclusively to itself as an immigrant population distinct from the peasantry

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Why do atheists seem to believe that hell is just one big musical party and not the eternal damnation that it truly is?
Why do atheists have a hard time acknowledging reality?
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>>18560068
Deep down, all unsaved people kind of know that they are going to Hell, which is why they try to minimize the severity of it or pretend that they'll "weather the storm" so to speak. It would be sad if it weren't so funny.
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>>18560074
Hmm, nyo
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>>18560074
why are christcucks so arrogant that they think they know what everyone else "actually" believes deep down?
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>>18560397
No theory of mind.
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>>18556402
I don't think atheists think hell is a party, I think they don't think hell exists dumbass

Not a single Roman patrician has ever been DNA tested.
Not a single confirmed Spartan has ever been DNA tested.
Not a single Pharaoh has ever been conclusively DNA tested, with the closest study claiming one possessed R1b-m269
Not a single Mede royalty has ever been DNA tested
Not a SINGLE Sumerian has ever been DNA tested

The evidence against Nordicism remains fundamentally UNDEBUNKED

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damn I wonder WHY the Jewish scientists don't want to dna test Aryan mummies hmmmm
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>mein volk founded all ancient civilizations but we couldn't do that in GERMANY
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Nobody cares.
Go rape a dog and calm down.
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We know pharaohs are nords just be looking at them. Red hair and blue eyes.

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Did you think the church tortured and executed scientists for heliocentrism?
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>>18560301
Maybe not in isolation, but a person could only be so based before earning the ire of the church.
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>>18560314
"The truth"
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>>18560345
The "out of Africa" theory is widely debunked
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>>18560301
No because they are the ones who pushed the model
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What's interesting here is:
a) the "science martyr" narrative was invented by propagandists in 1800s, was disproven by historians of science, but is still an important part of anti-religious sentiment

b) the Enlightenment narrative of "history is an automatic upward march from superstition to reason to ever-greater progress" that birthed the above is now very much split/mutated - but its old version is still an important part of anti-religious sentiment.

So atheism basically lags 200 years, and I think we will see a synthesis of religion and rationalism as public catches up.

>>18560314
Galileo was punished for breaching the agreement he made with church, not for telling the truth. In fact heliocentrism was not "truth" at the time because Galileo's proofs were wrong. Church allowed him to teach/publish heliocentric hypothesis as a hypothesis. The only blame here is that church didn't hold geocentrism to a similar standard.

The thing that's interesting about Bruno is that he arrived to correct-ish conclusions by philosophy/mysticism/vibes, not science - a similar mechanism as religion.

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What's the point of the Vertiginous Question?

For "why am I me?" to have any intellectual substance, it must pertain to actual missing knowledge. The connection between 'I' and 'me' would have to be contingent rather than necessary. But at face value, 'I' and 'me' both refer to the same thing, so under a literal interpretation, the form of the question is "why does X = X?" - not very interesting.

You could try to fix it by asking "why am I having my experience?", but this frames the relationship incorrectly: the sense of an 'I' is actually a part of the experience, so if anything, the experience is having you. In any case, the relationship is still logically necessary (as in a whole and its parts).

I can't actually think of any formulation of the Vertiginous Question that exposes any arbitrariness that needs to be addressed. Don't get me wrong, I know exactly what motivates people to ask it, but I can't fathom why people try to forcibly intellectualize it. I didn't even know it has a name before I found out, well into adulthood, that braindamaged Western "thinkers" have tried to build entire philosophies out of it.

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A few quick facts you ought to know.

>the American colonies did not have "taxation without representation", they were offered seats in Parliament and refused
>George III was the furthest thing from the Pol Pot-esque figure he was made out to be, just a harmless bloke who liked shagging his potato-faced German wife
>the Boston Massacre happened when a rioting mob threw rocks at soldiers and John Adams defended some of the latter in court and got them exonerated
>none of the taxes in question were unreasonable and all were necessary to recoup the costs of the world war that George Washington started
>It was entirely justified to retain armed soldiers on the Canadian border after 1783 in the event of American invasion
>Impressment of sailors was also yellow journalism, they were trying to catch Royal Navy deserters and no Americans were intentionally kidnapped
>the US lost most major engagements in the War of 1812, there were a few naval "victories" won by cheating when you used ships-of-the-line you passed off as frigates to pulverise sloops half their size that were manned by green sailors
>the burning of Washington was entirely justified for your having burned York, Canada
>the Battle of New Orleans was meaningless and affected nothing as the war had already been ended about three weeks earlier, but it took a while for news to cross the Atlantic
>the entire war was just a minor distraction anyway because we had a real apocalyptic war to the death going on in Europe
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>>18559787
You lost.
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>>18559787
King George was an inbred dysgenic retard with rapidly declining mental health and is one of the figures responsible for anti-monarchist sentiment in the late 18th century in Europe and the Colonies. Tories lost, WhigChads won. Get over it Nigel.
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>>18559787
>Impressment of sailors was also yellow journalism, they were trying to catch Royal Navy deserters and no Americans were intentionally kidnapped
Dumbass nigga.
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>>18559807
"Anglo-Protestant" Canada had way more Catholics than America back when both countries were 90+% White.
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>>18559787
All trvkes but Americans don't believe in anything that isn't convenient.

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if you ever need reassurance that the British are not alright, just ask them about the Falklands war, they'll defend it to the bitter end

It's hilarious. this place is so far away, basically nobody lives there, but they'll lose their minds over it.

what's explains this bizarre psychosis, is it that the suez crisis mindbroke them and they need to clutch some small semblance of imperial affirmation
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>>18560344
cry harder, paco.
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British are based. the best and most Aryan nations are always those that conquer the shit out of everybody else. any king such as emperors of Japan or ancient India knew this. mammeeh
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>>18560344
>small islands should bow down to their larger, more powerful neighbours
Thanks for the seal of approval :)
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>>18560344
>It's hilarious. this place is so far away, basically nobody lives there, but they'll lose their minds over it.

If you think that's crazy wait until you learn somebody wanted it badly enough to invade it.


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