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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

Check the wiki, the catalog, and the archive before asking for advice or recommendations, and please refrain from starting new threads for questions that can be answered by a search engine.

/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.

Looking for books online? Check here:
Guide to #bookz
https://www.geocities.ws/prissy_90/Media/Texts/BookzHelp19kb.htm
Recommended Literature
https://lit.trainroll.xyz/wiki/Recommended_Reading
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Are you incapable of making decisions without the guidance of anonymous internet strangers? Open this thread for some recommendations.

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Goy here. The psychic thrall of international Jewry. Y’know. Always got mayonnaise on some part of my face. My lunches consist of white bread sandwiches with crusts cut off. And I, for one, welcome my psychic vampire overlords—the Jewish overclass. Joshua Cohen has to be one of the best writers in America. Just saying this as a humble goy without much chutzpah.
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>>25383858
Why can you freaks never answer a question? How are you controlled? Do you feel a Jewish wrist closing in on your shoulder whenever you make a choice?
Antisemitism seems to me such a twisted and despairing rejection of personal agency and the role of one's own people in history that I would like to understand it, but I only see malice in it.
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>>25383869
Moshe c'mon, just pack it up already. You are the freaks for shooting Palestinian children through their heads for sport.
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>>25383883
You have not answered my question, only accused me of being a member of an ethnic group I admire for their strength in defending their women.
How are they controlling you? Does the chip in your brain malfunction when a kid rushes a soldier only a few years older than him with a knife and gets shot?
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>>25383885
>defending their women
Against 4 month old babies?
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>>25383888
They aren't killing 4 months old babies retard. They've rescued several of them and you idiots tried to pass off a pic of a Jewish soldier holding a baby as him killing it. I saw the baby alive afterwards
But stop trying to do the lame shit Sartre complained about and fooling around
Why are the Jews controlling your psyche? Can you define what it is that they are doing? It's a simple question and you cannot answer it without screeching and ad hominem

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Do you think that mediums other than the written word could ever be considered "literary"?
Does a piece of art need to be printed on paper for it to be considered to have literary value?
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>>25382466
>E33 is as dogshit as Ulysses
I agree. Their influences make both their mediums worse.
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>>25382466
Why would you pick an Irish novel to accompany a French game, pick Maupassant or Flaubert dummie
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>>25382597
Keep telling yourself that when refilling your prescriptions
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>>25382466
this may sound cruel or unwarranted, but E33 fans deserve to spontaneously combust
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>>25373831
Exactly my thoughts. It is horrendous therapyslop for trannies and other neglected children who lack a rich inner world and therefore require a surrogate. They can't fathom that a narrative without emotion as its mechanical core could be compelling.
To OP: obviously yes, but this is a concept barely explored. Pure writing remains the clearest we can see into someone's mind. The audiovisual components of other media are theoretically in support of the literature, but only act as subsitutes for depth in practice.

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>felt bad about pirating $1000 worth of animorph audiobooks
>but found out the husband wife team are zionist democrats
>now don't feel bad.
>but now dont want to finish the series. probably will though
>hope the ghost writing rumors are now true
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>>25382782
Zionist just means being pro-self-determination of the Jews
It is neither inherently left-wing nor right-wing though personally I find the kibbutz are based
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>>25378322
Blessed words have definitions anon.
Zionists are basically the only good people left I am realizing. The rest are just disgusting Muslims and schizos
>>25378327
Likewise every antizionist is complicit in all of Hamas and Lebanon's actions, including their ritualisitic abuse of little girls.
I personally think Zionism is just the first step of a greater liberation movement
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>>25381371
>no philosophical consistency
Anon's point was that you could make the same argumentfor the nazis.
Not every nazi was guarding the camps. Many were working class germans. But you can't make the same argument about nazis that you can about zionists because the West has been socially conditioned to accept one type of ethnostate over another.
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>>25383863
Antizionists sure love Holocaust inversion. I think the reason they want Israel to commit a genocide so bad is they really feel like they want the Jews to do the same thing to them as they did to the Jews and that this would give them catharsis of some kind
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>>25383882
Whites got brainfried by having to learn about the dark things other White people did in history at a very early age.
This makes it impossible for them to relate to Jews and Black people as if they are human and not feel masochism and sadism to an extent. It's kind of like how little boys who got beaten are now into femdom shit
They WANT to be hurt so they let in violent migrants and fantasize about a genocide of White passing Arabs in Gaza that they can self-insert into

aegon adopts the faith edition

ASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters

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Melony piper is for sure a hint about Melisandre but I don’t know how they connect. There’s no way George saying she had a “fiery personality” is a coincidence, she’s the only other character named melony
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>>25383220
And is a red head
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>>25383220
>Melony piper is for sure a hint about Melisandre but I don’t know how they connect.

It's not very likely that a noble girl from Westeros would end up a slave in Asshai so I do[ubt there's an connection to House Piper but I'll agree that Melisandre is Westerosi, with the name "Melony" and the red hair clueing readers in on this.
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I just got to the 2nd Jon chapter in ADWD and it repeats entire paragraphs from Sam's chapter in AFFC.

What the fuck....
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>>25383877
Well, yeah, the entire point of that chapter is seeing Jon's thoughts after a chapter where Sam feels he no longer recognizes his friend and seeing how they bith interpreted the same words. When Dany and Jon meet I hope there are also a couple overlap chapters at first where we see how they interpret each other's words to give insight on how they think as people.

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Did liberalism fail?
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>>25382779
Scandinavians practice a secularized form of Lutheranism. They're not actually liberals
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>>25381586
>The problem with you guys is that your only critique of liberalism essentially boils down to :
>dude there's NIGGERS on the subway
>the only solution is to violently decapitate all of them
it's a pretty powerful critique though
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>define liberalism as something that failed
>wHy DiD libErAlisM fAiLdEd?
go read a fucking book
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>>25382840
No, it’s not. Your critique is essentially that your perfect vase has a little stain on it and you just need to clean it. The logic of your belief is still that the liberal West is the end of history and your society will inevitably just become a museum and nursing home regardless of how many minorities you put in jail
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>>25383826
Well? What's wrong with cleaning my perfect vase? People clean even their mediocre homes with its unassuming furniture and cheap knick-knacks. And you have the gall to tell me I can't clean my perfect vase, that no such responsibility exists, and that I should just let it stay dirty or get even worse?

What's wrong with you people? Do you just like living in filth and misery?

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Summer Goth Edition

>Previous:
>>25374043

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

>Thread question:

Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>25383812
The themes and ideas contained within nearly all literature are political in nature. If you can't discuss these ideas for fear of being "too political" then this entire board serves absolutely no purpose.
(You) are a moron who has no business discussing books in any matter approaching serious, past a kindergarten reading level.
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>ummmmm.... everything in life is political ackchually!!
Yup, you're the same faggot LMAO. I'd kill myself if I thought I was going to turn out like (You)
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>>25383823
Years of /pol/ have rotted your fucking mind just like everyone else of your ilk.
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>>25383823
Fuck off pagespammer.
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>>25383823
Big P or little p?

Twat.

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Bede edition

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>25286593

>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE·
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko

All Classical languages are welcome.
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>>25382820
who the fuck cares retard
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It’s crazy how much easier Caesar makes reading Sallust. I’m literally just reading for pleasure right now after grinding most of book 1 of DBG.
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>>25383556
>Bocchi memorata
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>>25382820
"fluent" can mean multiple things but I'd say bare minimum 1/2 years being generous with the term, with ancient languages in general it's harder to get the kind of immersion you get with modern ones to reach levels of fluency deemed reasonable to understand common speech
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>>25382820
>>25383774
The reason “fluent” is a tough metric to compare to a modern language is because the corpus is just harder. The time to “fluency” in something like a spoken neo-latin register, or in a register with less complexity like the vulgate or the greek bible, is I think comparable to other languages. But yeah 1-2 years to be fluent in something like the bible is pretty doable if you’re focused. I know someone who is going for a PHD that said from the start of their bachelor’s studies through their master’s it took about half a decade (but again, keep in mind how most of that volume is reading dense prose instead of practicing discussing conversational topics).

The problem is that Cicero or Aristotle are hard for many to read even in their own native language, so reading them “fluently” takes longer, and many simply never get to what they would consider fluent reading. Furthermore, for colloquial-register, people just don’t get enough practice volume in that type of speech. So for me, because I can pick apart difficult prose, I can understand conversational latin, but I wouldn’t be able to fluently produce it because I have never tried, and have never taken the time to study conversational phrases in detail first.

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Nirvana really is just annihilation. Note: by annihilation, I do not mean that some self is annihilated. I mean that the aggregates that make up "you" are annihilated. There is no consciousness after death, no person, nothing. It is perfectly ordinary to say that some person is annihilated in death without positing the existence of some mysterious soul-substance. That's just a strawman people use to dodge the annihilationist accusations because it isn't appealing to the retarded laity, whom the monks rely on.
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>>25383575
Not only his generation but all the le born in wrong generation to follow.
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>>25383575
Denounce Vishnu
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>>25383564
Sticky?
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>>25379263
Very cool midwittery op.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkGSk5uhQWU
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>>25383564
was he even a buddhist?

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He's too libtarded for me to enjoy his books. Too much crying about colonialism and fascism
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>>25383418
He says with a pedo republican in office
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>>25373181
America has nationalism beyond being allied with Israel, though I think the Israel issue is really an off-shot about America not being confident about its own identity
It gets subsumed in the identity of its allies and influential minorities like the Jews and African-American
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>>25383224
have a (You) and a FUCK
fuck you
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>>25371637
Cope
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>>25382669
He found you out. I see you as you are and you can’t hide

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So he basically just rambles and rambles with zero coherent argument?
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>>25383735
I do think it's funny that Arabs tell everyone Jews have no claim to the region because they're of European extraction, while this is obviously not the case proven by countless studies on genetics. Generally I think blood and soil is a retarded concept to pursue if you're already chilling.
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>>25383747
The constant Arab death charge at the Jews is cosmically tragicomic because they are attacking a group of people that both according to gene tests and their own stupid religious book are their brothers, and who could have brought a lot of water security to their shithole countries
But the Arab elites love brother wars in general so they can rape the younger generations share of women
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>>25383762
Looks like we got a live one, lol.

Claiming Arabs are the aggressors and would somehow inherit a better future had they just laid down their arms is too bold a claim to make on this board moshe.
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>>25383861
Arabs are the only aggressors of history. But keep attacking Moshe and dying to him, Abdullah. Your elderly boomers are raping your Ayeshas while you are lying blown apart in the trenches
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>>25383861
Man I think it's really as simple as:

>they didn't have a country there
>post WW2 a bunch of guys got together and drew some lines on the map, sent the Jews down there.

The people who had lived there and called what is now Isreal their holy land, because the goddam Old Testament is shared by the 3 biggest religions (basically) of the world. Christians obviously connect the Jews to Isreal and a lot of them were behind making Isreal a state.

Isreal is fascinating to me because the damn thing is basically a bunker that has unbelievable global monetary and military support from some very powerful people. It's smaller than Prince Edward Island, for fucks sake.

Crazy fucking world. It's like that Shonen hero that trounces on kaiju, despite being 130 pounds. Technology and capital! I'm starting to get fascinated with so called fascism because I want people to stay off of my lawn, I don't mean no trouble! This is considered a radical position to take. How did we get here? Apparently, from a global conspiracy. Big if true. So what do you do about it? Pick up a gun? There has to be something else.

I'm going to need you to pitch me your 'MUST READ' non-fiction.

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So if the Anima is the subconscious female side of a man, what do gays have?
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>>25380728
>Real question here is why there's hardly any talk about Jung and his works in a thread about Jung.
It's the usual /lit/ malaise. Hardly anybody ITT has read the works in question, but they still feel the need to appear knowledgeable on an anonymous Tibetan macramé board.
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>>25378792
Dworkin style rad fem here (don't ask for boobs, I am old enough to be your grandmother)
I blame these guys for starting the trans movement
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>>25383843
Would you say you look more like Miriam Margolyes or Gertrude Stein
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>>25383853
My appearance is no concern of yours
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Gene editing and cybernetic engineering are going to be used to make women very tall and large (like 200cm and ~110kg) and men very tiny with little wings on their backs like fairies (think around 1-2 inches large and a around 15 grams). The people will be ageless, and they will have exquisite computing lattices of carbon nanotubes and other substrates that allow for near landaur-level compute efficiency. That might sound like a huge difference, but the reason is purely economic and efficiency motivated. Extreme female biased size dimorphism is simply the most efficient form for converting atoms and energy into more units and speeding the expansion rate. I suspect that within 20 years the process of this transformation will start, seeing the current rate of AI and technological advancement.

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Recommendations for literary romance books that are actually worthy of being read?

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What are some of your favorite book quotes anons
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I leave a white and turbid wake; pale waters, paler cheeks, where'er I sail. The envious billows sidelong swell to whelm my track; let them; but first I pass.
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>>25380530
Suicide is what Hemingway does when the world gets so out of focus he can no longer commit it to paper
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>>25380830
Araby is one of the greatest short stories ever. Purely distilled sovl.


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