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Warmachine is a tabletop wargame that I’ve had my eye on for almost 20 years. I purchased some of the rulebooks and pored over them, thinking that maybe some day, I’d dive in and get some models, paint them up, and play a few rounds. The steampunk-magic craziness is a theme that is near and dear to my interests, and the small squad play is far more interesting to me than fielding a Warhammer army of dozens. I’ve always loved tactical games like Final Fantasy Tactics and Tactics Ogre, and the gridless system of Warmachine seemed fascinating. (Behemoth model photo below shamelessly swiped from eBay for reference.)

Privateer Press has relatively recently announced that they are moving to a “Mark IV” for their game, which is jettisoning their previous design ethos of always allowing any produced models to be played. They are making a whole new range of minis and moving their fictional world ahead in time some decades or so. This has pros and cons, which I’m not really going to dive into here, since I’m still mostly an outsider, but suffice it to say that it’s causing some friction. On the upside for me, Privateer Press has put most of their models on sale, and it’s a great time to pick up deals on Facebook or eBay as people sell off their collections.

Sure, these deals that I’m picking up are the old “legacy” models, so I won’t be able to go to tournaments or the like with them, but I intend to play with my kids and maybe a friend or two here and there, so I don’t really care what the cutting edge of the game is doing as far as what I’d need to play there. As such, I can get small battle groups from just about every faction and have a ton of play options. Yes, I’m cheap, and way behind the adoption curve, but that’s just how I do most things.

Also, I’m going to be “proxying” several things, making my own minis to use in the game. I’m using this “abandoned wild west” of the game as my playground for testing out small scale sculpting and painting. I’ve wanted to do this sort of thing for decades. I work digitally professionally, and it’s great to have tangible work as part of my skillset. That’s part of why I ran the Tinker Kickstarter campaigns, making physical goods of my designs (plenty of leftovers are still for sale over on my shop site!). There’s just something satisfying about real world art that my days full of digital work don’t quite match. I do love a lot of what I do in the digital world, it’s just not the same, especially as AI gets weirder, and I want to have more skills I can call on if needed. These proxies can also be useful when I play D&D with my kids and cousins, since that’s a thing we do here and there.

This project started in my sketchbook, of course, like so many other fun ideas.

I’ll be doing something for most of the factions in the game, but to start off, I’ll be digging into a faction from the complementary game, Hordes. (Warmachine and Hordes are designed to work together, and indeed, are rolled together under one banner for Mark IV. Warmachine is more about the tech side, Hordes is about monsters.) I’m taking the Hordes “Circle Orboros” faction and changing them up a bit. Instead of the standard “forest monsters” theme, I’m taking their “wold” stone monsters and reimagining them as a squad of beasties that protect their world’s equivalent of Goblin Valley. This means some custom units I’ll be sculpting and painting, and taking some of their units and painting them in a style that evokes that weird-but-beautiful red sandstone feeling so famous in the Utah deserts.

Tangentially, I have a bunch of my own photos of Goblin Valley that may be of interest over on Pinterest.

To get started, then, I’m sculpting my own Sentry Stone, themed around Arches national park and the iconic Delicate Arch and double arch. It’s a cousin of sorts to Goblin Valley, so it fits the theme well.

Here, then, are some of my process photos for my unit, meant to be a stone arch trio, on a 40mm round base. I started with a wooden base, lasercut by a friend of mine. I drilled some small holes and added some artfully mangled paper clips and a bit of superglue.

Then came the Sculpey polymer clay, carefully molded and detailed by finger and toothpick.

After the first baking pass, some sand and a Burnt Sienna wash…

…I decided that I didn’t like part of the interior of the large arch, and sculpted in an addition.

After the second bake and another thin coat of Burnt Sienna, it was time for some other light glazes in bands to get that sandstone layered look.

A bit more detailing, and I’m ready to call this done. The Circle “Blackclad” druids do tend to sculpt runes into their work, so I might revisit this with some runes at some point, but I’m undecided on the colors for that. I mostly want this to stand on its own visually, but the runes would help it look more consistent with the official models when I get to those.

This was a project I tried mostly to see if I could sculpt well enough, to test the Sculpey itself, the paints and the paint scheme, and the overall look and feel. It’s a bit more banded than the proper Goblin Valley bits will be as I proceed through the project, but overall, I’m very happy with how it turned out. I’ll put together some of the “mannikins” with toothpicks, string, superglue and some sort of thing for the leaves of the original. I’m using juniper and bristlecone pine trees for inspiration instead of deep forest oaks and such, so I may just do some pine needle sculpting or go scrounge up some actual tree bits for use on those. I do have some proper models from Privateer Press for this project later on, but I’m using these homebrew experiments to nail down my process before I go all in on the painting for those models.

I’m looking forward to doing more of this, and I hope that you enjoy the trip as well. Thanks for stopping by!

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As noted before, Zomblobs! has three breeds of blobs vying over global control:  The Aspirants, the Ferals and the Zomblobs.  One of the high level design rules I’ve made for myself is that I want each breed to play differently, but still be as balanced as possible.  Call it the StarCraft influence, perhaps.  Balance between three factions is inherently more interesting to me than two faction balance.  As such, one of the big things I want to change between the factions is the finer details of controlling units in tactical combat.

Some time ago, I purchased the Privateer Press Hordes: Primal book so that I could learn about the game.  I have a passing interest in tabletop miniature wargaming, and I really like what I’ve seen of WarMachine, so when I found a great deal on the Hordes sourcebook, it seemed like a good purchase.  It’s actually an older version, but that’s fine.  All my WarHammer and WarMachine books are older versions, too; that’s how I get ’em cheap.  Since I’m not on the cutting edge, itching to play in tournaments, older sourcebooks work just fine.  (Aside to Hordes fans… if I mangle some of this, it’s inadvertently.  I’m still digging into the system.  I welcome corrections.)

Hordes has a curious mechanic they call Fury.  Commander/spellcaster units they call Warlocks command a group of Warbeasts who can in turn generate Fury points as they are prodded into combat actions.  The Warlocks then can leach those Fury points from the Warbeasts, using them to fuel spells and special actions.  At first blush, this is all upside, which is a bit odd considering that WarMachine, the sister game, is one of resource management like the typical mana point system we see in RPGs.  Fury-generating actions are useful in combat, and spells the Warlocks cast are similarly useful.  Generation and use of fury points provide combat benefits.  So where’s the resource management?  Warlocks and Warbeasts have Fury limits, true, so there’s an upper limit to what can be done in any given turn, but an upper limit is a different thing from a pool that depletes.  It’s also important to note that Warlocks don’t generate Fury on their own.

The significant catch is that Warbeasts can “frenzy” if they fail to pass a “check” performed with a dice roll.  Warbeasts who have Fury points on them are more likely to fail this check; the more Fury points, the more likely they are to fail.  When a Warbeast “frenzies”, the Warlock (and therefore the player) loses control of the Warbeast.  They will tend to still try to attack enemies, but they do so in a blind fury.  They can even turn on allies or even their “controlling” Warlock.  As such, as the designers note, Hordes is a game of risk management rather than resource management, though there is still resource management on the battle level, as usual (losing units makes your team less effective, losing your Warlock means you lose the battle).  Warlocks need Fury to fuel their powerful abilities, but pushing their Warbeasts too far flirts with losing control of their most significant assets.  You will want those powerful abilities that come only with the use of Fury, but the more you use them, the more likely the Warbeast frenzy system is to blow up in your face.

So… what of Zomblobs?

Thematically, I really like the notion of losing control.

Aspirants are the most intelligent of blobs, and strive to always be in control.  They know that they could slip into the natural, instinctive mayhem the Feral blobs embrace if they lose control, and they aren’t sure they can get back… or if they would want to.  And Zomblobs, well… zombies have long represented the loss of control that most humans fear, a primal, deep rooted concern, as the loss of control wouldn’t be a surrender, but a corruption.  Aspirants are deathly afraid of losing control, either to become a Feral blob or a Zomblob.  They fight not because they want to rule, but because they do not want to be ruled… or corrupted.  They know passion, they know fear, but they do not lose control.  (Think Spock, not Data, and Trekkies know the trouble an uncontrolled Vulcan can get into.)

Feral blobs love being reckless and dancing on the edge of being out of control.  They draw strength from that savage adrenaline rush.  They don’t want to buckle down and bow to the sort of control an Aspirant cherishes.  They glory in acting, not thinking, the faster the better.  They love the hunt, and they cherish the kill.  Life is simple for a Feral blob, though they don’t follow directions well, especially once they get rolling.

Zomblobs are corrupted monsters, some were once Ferals, most were once Aspirants.  They no longer have full control of their faculties, though they are stronger in some ways for it.  They don’t follow detailed orders well, but their single-minded drive to consume and corrupt means they are utterly implacable and totally committed to their course of action.  Nothing short of complete defeat will keep a Zomblob from its destination, though they can occasionally be confused once they accomplish their orders.

Mechanically, I’m torn on this.  I believe that players tend to like to keep the reins and control their units.  Hordes does show that some fun can occur when that control is loosened a bit, and the WarHammer Greenskin army of Ork and Goblin fame thrives on a bit of chaos.  It still seems like an acquired taste, though, and I’m not sure how many players want to trade power for a more unwieldy toolset.

I’m thinking of two major design approaches to this.

On the one hand, I’d play it safe and go with a Fury-like system, where each unit has a threshold where they lose control and do their own thing in combat (though just for a turn in all cases; control can be reasserted pretty quickly once the fury is expended).    Ferals would have less control than Aspirants, and Zomblobs would be even less controlled.  The “frenzy” equivalent would balance this loss of control out, and indeed, it can be a calculated risk to intentionally drive units to go crazy.  I like the choices that might prompt.

On the other hand, I’d really like to make playing each breed a distinct experience, really embracing the flavor of the factions.  Aspirants would play like normal ‘Tactics games, with full control.  Feral units would pick a target at the beginning of a skirmish and begin hunting.  Players could nudge them with interim commands, but for the most part, Feral blobs would just go for the kill and then wait for new targets.  Zomblobs would just be given a direction and/or a location, then be left pretty much alone.  Players wouldn’t have much control at all.  It’s almost like the difference between commanding a group of snipers, a nest of rabid trench fighters, or a wind-up flamethrower automaton with C4 nailed to the tanks.

Now, in all this, players can play any of the three blob breeds, so they can always find one that fits their taste, and they would probably still have full control over the RNA layout, so they can prepare loose cannons before a fight.  Still, I’m not sure that diverging too much between playstyles, as I’m thinking of in the latter option, is a good idea.  I really want to make it work, and I think it could be a lot of fun, but how many players will bother with the Ferals or the Zomblobs then?  Might the game be poorer when players don’t like two thirds of the potential units?

Any thoughts?

…perhaps it’s telling that I’m leaning to the latter design, with elements of the first, though it could be more risky.  It seems like it could be more fun.

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