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Combing Down His Yellow Hair [Jun. 7th, 2026|07:47 am]
Tony Grist
Here's a song you don't hear much any more-  Bobby Shaftoe.

When I was a nipper we used to sing it in and out of school.  Pretty little tune, easy to sing.

I came across a version on Youtube yesterday- performed by a couple of Geordies calling themselves Blaydon Aces. They were pictured on the banks of the Tyne with the Baltic Gallery in the the background. Sweet!

"Funny," says Ailz, "It's clearly a woman's song but it's always performed by men".

But it's also a sailor song.  And your average 19th century sailor didn't suffer too much from gender anxiety. Besides, where would you find the women to do the singing on board a Tyne Collier?

One thing that always bothered me was the "silver buckles on his knee."

I thought that sounded painful. I mean, how were they attached? With staples perhaps? Poor Bobby.
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[User Picture]From: heleninwales
2026-06-07 09:14 am (UTC)
I always assumed that the silver buckles were on the bottoms of his knee length breeches. They'd be at the side, not on top, but their purpose would be to close the fabric round the top of the calf.

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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2026-06-07 01:52 pm (UTC)
Yes that's how I picture them now I'm an adult.
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[User Picture]From: heleninwales
2026-06-07 02:52 pm (UTC)
I wonder why I never had a problem with the buckles? Perhaps there was a picture in the song book we learned the words from?
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2026-06-07 05:28 pm (UTC)
I don't remember ever having seen a picture of Bobby.....
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[User Picture]From: lblanchard
2026-06-07 01:51 pm (UTC)
What heleninwales said. Georgian breeches had knee buckles. Here's a link:

https://candicehern.com/regencyworld/georgian-knee-buckles/
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2026-06-07 01:54 pm (UTC)
Very nice. Thank you.

I reckon the buckles date the song.
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[User Picture]From: lblanchard
2026-06-07 01:54 pm (UTC)
Wikipedia says around 1730.
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2026-06-07 05:34 pm (UTC)
A friend on DW points me to an actual Robert Shaftoe (or Shafto)- an English politician whose dates are 1732-1797. but I have my doubts about him being the subject of the song as he wasn't any kind of a sailor. All the same it's on record that his son used the song- with different words- in his electioneering campaigns.
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[User Picture]From: morrigan716
2026-06-07 06:36 pm (UTC)
I remember that song from childhood. It never occurred to me about how the silver buckles were on his knees until just now. Lol
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[User Picture]From: poliphilo
2026-06-07 06:48 pm (UTC)
it used to bother me......

I should have asked, shouldn't I? Someone would have known.....
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[User Picture]From: morrigan716
2026-06-07 06:55 pm (UTC)
One would think, but maybe not.
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