I am trying to calm myself down right now and not let my emotions get the better of me...as they normally do!
This weekend Kamil and I went on a hiking trip to Ithaca with two of his friends and their girlfriends, which makes for a total of 3 couples (Phil and Jess, Josh and Paola and Me and Kamil). This was planned at the end of May and we had agreed to stay at Paola's brother's house about an hour away from Ithaca in Binghamton. Kamil and I agreed to go on this trip because it would be a cheap, fun trip with friends. We agreed to go on the trip because we would have a free place to stay and would only have to pay for gas and food. About a week ago (July 4th weekend), it was mentioned that maybe we should stay in a hotel because the house was an hour away from where we wanted to hike. Kamil and I did not like that idea but it was dropped and no one mentioned it again...until the day before we were leaving (thursday). Jess and Phil didn't want to say in the house because we had to bring our own sheets (since no one is there for the summer) and our own towels. Jess is a girl who is ALWAYS done up and refused to stay somewhere with no air conditioning. Kamil and I basically told them "look guys, we are poor and can't afford this. It wasn't the original agreement and we based our ability to go off the fact that there would be a place to stay for free. Therefore, we either need to bow out and not go with you guys, or we can sleep in our car (which we actually both want to do since the seats fold down and there is basically a bed in it), or we can stay at the house." I feel as though that gives a lot of options. We aren't saying "You HAVE to do what we want" but we are also standing up for ourselves and saying we WONT pay for a place.
Josh decides that he wants all of us to stay together and has found a Lake House that will cost $450 for the entire weekend. He says he is fine paying for it so that he can have all his friends together. Kamil talked to him and he said "are you comfortable with me paying? Consider it a late birthday present or something." I was a bit worried that by letting Josh pay we would be indebted to him and feel that we owe him something. Kamil and I agreed to do this because we still wanted to go and it seemed important to Josh that we go on the trip.
We get up to the house earlier than everyone else (around 9). We had been up since 5:30 that morning and were very tired after a day of work, and wanted to go to sleep. We called the other 4 (who were all driving up together) and they weren't going to be at the house until about 12:30. We explained where the house was (since we had missed it) and told them that we were exhausted and would probably be asleep when they got there. The answer on the other end of the line was "You're going to bed?" (in a passive aggressive tone). We explained that we got up very early for work and since they wouldn't be there till late we were going to hit the hay. That was not received well and we both felt as if we were obligated to stay up. I kept thinking, why am I staying awake? So we can say hello and then go to bed. Kamil and I decided it was ridiculous and want to bed.
The next morning we got up and everything was fine. Kamil and I thought that maybe we could go to the grocery store to pick up some food for ourselves for breakfast. Josh said "Can you wait until everyone is up?" (again with the passive aggressive tone). We agreed but about 20 minutes later when Jess and Phil still weren't up Josh said "Paola and I are going to go get coffee." Okay, so you can go get coffee but we can't go to the store? I didn't think much of it and just brushed it off and Kamil and I ended up going along for the ride to the coffee shop. Neither of us drink coffee but we decided to go to keep them company. Josh stopped off at the bank afterwards and then we headed back to the house. Jess and Phil still weren't up by that point. We all hung out and waited around until they got up and were ready to go.
Once everyone was ready we headed off for our first hike. We all piled into our little Honda Fit (that only fits 5, even though there were 6 of us. Someone ended up riding in the trunk...which is a hatch so it's not enclosed). Kamil and I have what is called an Empire Pass that we bought a while ago. It gets us into all the state parks for free (well not really for free since we did pay for the pass).
The first hike was Josh's choice. I had read good things about the hike and had told him that I liked his choice. We started out all together and ended up hiking in groups that changed all the time. I would hike with Josh and Paola and then I'd hike with Kamil and then I'd hike with Jess. It was ever changing. After a while Josh became very quiet and it was clear that he was not happy. I have a LOT of friends who do that it's one thing that frustrates me more than any other. I know you are not happy but when I ask you if you're alright you act as if you're pissed at me for asking. I always tell my kids a work "I can't help you unless you tell me why you're upset." Same thing here! Kamil hiked with him for a while and he didn't ask him why he was acting that way but since Kamil was very happy I was hoping it would rub off on Josh!
At one point Kamil stopped and wanted to put his feet in the water. Everyone seemed okay with it and stopped and sat down and took a break. I joined Kamil and it was very refreshing. We tried to get other people to put their feet in and walk around by the gorgeous waterfall but they didn't want to get their feet wet. It was so hot that my feet dried off within minutes after getting out. Kamil and I walked around for a few minutes and overall took about a 10 minute break. Once the hike was finished, there was an awesome gorge with a waterfall that people were swimming in. There was a diving board that you could jump off of into the gorge. It was pretty cool. We got there and Josh said "I'm going in." I wanted to go in as well but had to pee like CRAZY! I found the bathroom, went and by the time I got back Josh was on his second jump off the diving board. Phil ended up going in as well and by the time I jumped off the diving board the first time they were sitting under the waterfall. I joined them for a few minutes and then they both got out. I jumped again and then Kamil decided he wanted to go. This whole time the other two girls are just sitting there, still not wanting to get wet. I understand that not everyone is up for jumping off a diving board, into a gorge but it seemed as if they were bored and didn't want to be there. I very much want to LIVE life! And yea, I was totally scared when I got up on that diving board! The drop was big but I wanted to do it! I didn't want to be a prissy girl saying "I don't want to get my hair wet." Well then why did you go on the hike?
By the time Kamil had finished his first jump the others were done. We were not. We wanted to jump a few times. I jumped a total of 3 times and Kamil 2. We were there a total of about 45 minutes. After that we walked back to the car. While at the car Jess and I got into a pretty heated debate about food. I've been reading books about food lately (one in particular called "Real Food" by Nina Planck) and am very interested in the subject. The debate centered around the fact that Jess thinks Red Meat, Whole Milk and other such things are terrible for you. Where as I say, if you are going to be getting any fat it SHOULD be from whole milk or other sources of animal fat. These things actually help us. I'm not going to go into it here but I have a whole slew of opinions and facts to back them up.
We headed out to another hike Josh had found and did a 1.5 mile hike that wasn't very interesting. At the end we all sat down to try to figure out what to do. Kamil said he needed to eat and pulled out some blueberries and offered them to everyone. Josh and Phil and I all ate some along with Kamil. Someone asked if anyone wanted to swim. I said that I could always swim but didn't want to hold anyone back so if I was going to be the only one, I wouldn't go." We decided to go back to the house and shower and relax for a bit before finding a place to eat.
When we got back to the house we decided to go out in the Canoe. Josh, Phil and Kamil all wanted to go out. There were 4 seats so I said I'd join. Since I used to actually race outrigger canoes I know a thing or two about canoes. One of the things I know best is how to steer! I ended up steering and Kamil is in the front paddling (there were only 2 paddles so Josh and phil were just in the boat for the ride). The whole time Josh was telling Kamil that he didn't know what he was doing and that he was doing it wrong. Kamil was doing fine and Josh really didn't know what he was talking about I guess needed to make himself feel better so he decided to berate Kamil. Just so you all know, Josh was Kamil's best man in our wedding but he still treats him this way.
We all showered and then went out to dinner at Josh's choice. This wasn't a place that I particularly liked but I can always find something on the menu so I went along with it cause I didn't want to be difficult. Dinner was fun. We had several debates about relationships (talking about how we argue and how we are similar and different) as well as about religion/our moral compasses. I had a great time. When we got back Josh was sort of done talking about all of it and went onto the deck with his beer and music. Kamil and Phil soon joined him and the three of them were playing cards. I went out there, along with Paola and we chatted and had a good rest of the evening. Jess went to bed...everyone was fine with that. We agreed to get up and be out by 9am the next morning (this morning).
We had thought we were going to hike this morning but since it takes so long to get home and we all have work tomorrow we figured we would just get on the road. They all wanted to go get coffee and agreed to do that and we needed gas. They all wanted to start driving and stop and get breakfast along the way. Kamil is the type of person that needs to eat when he wakes up. He can't wait an hour or two. He, unfortunately, didn't communicate this. When we were leaving the house Josh pulled out and drove away before we were even in our car. He did not tell us where he was going. We went to get gas and called him and Kamil said "Look dude, I am hungry so I think Gretchen and I are going to just grab a bagel at Panera and be on our way." Josh asked everyone if they wanted to go to Panera and no one did (btw, we weren't set on Panera, it was just right there and Kamil was hungry but we would have gone anywhere in town). He said but I thought you were coming with us. I then got on the phone and said "you've known Kamil long enough to know that when he is hungry he needs to eat NOW! His blood sugar gets very low and he becomes hangry (hungary and angry)!" Josh's response was "But that wasn't the plan." He ends up saying "It's fine! Do whatever you want." and hangs up. At dinner the night before he talked about how when women say "It's fine" it doesn't actually mean everything is fine. He also said how much he hates it when Paola says that. Yet, he does exactly what he hates to us.
Kamil and I head to Panera and Josh calls Kamil and Kamil tried to pick up the call but AT&T sucks and he didn't get it. Josh left a message saying "I think what you did is a really dick move. Especially considering I was extremely accommodating of you and Gretchen the entire weekend. My one request for everybody was that we stick together so we can spend time together and you pretty much just said fuck you to that, so I hope you have a safe trip back. Talk to you soon." That is word for word what he said. Kamil and both thought that maybe he was calling cause everyone had changed their minds and wanted to eat now. Kamil tries to call him back before he listens to the message and Josh calls again and Kamil is able to talk to him this time. Josh basically tells him he is a dick and he is pissed and hangs up. He doesn't let Kamil say a thing.
My first questions is why do we have to be together 24/7? We've been together the entire time so far. It's not like not having breakfast together means we aren't friends anymore. Kamil and I both felt that he was throwing it in our faces that he paid for the place. Just because he paid does that mean we have to do everything he wants? If I had known that I would not have gone!
Kamil and I stewed about this on our 6 hour drive home. Both frustrated but determined not to let it ruin our day. When we get home, Josh texts kamil and says this:
"I hope you and Gretchen got home safe. I had fun this weekend and I hope you did too. I am sorry for losing my cool before but I am not sorry for what I said. I thought it was rude of you to just leave without saying goodbye or thank you or even being open to compromise re: where and when we ate. There is no excuse for being rude, hungry or not. If you didn't want to eat in an hour you should have spoken up when it was discussed. It was childish that you just left, clearly showing you don't give a shit about what I think yet I am supposed to care what you think. I am pissed you didn't think of anyone else besides yourself throughout the trip, bringing only beer for yourself, food for yourself, and no one else. I don't care if you spend a dime. There are free ways to show you care. I get it that you have other ways you'd rather spend your money. But if other people are gonna float you just because they really wanna spend time with you, which I clearly do, you need to at least be a little bit less stubborn and meet in the middle. This my way or the highway bullshit is getting old. I love you man. I'm not usually one to talk because I am far from perfect. I just want you to see that you are making it seem like you don't care about others and that hurts me when I care so much about you."
First of all, they pulled out of the driveway without saying anything...NOT us! Second, we thanked Josh several times throughout the trip. I also texted him the day before the trip thanking him. But no, that's not good enough. We also, WERE willing to compromise. That was a lack of communication on BOTH of our parts. He didn't offer up any compromise and neither did we. I love that he says we didn't give a shit about what he thinks when all we did all weekend was what he wanted.
He says we didn't think about anyone else the entire trip. We drove everyone around all weekend, we did everything everyone else wanted and we are still in trouble for it. I had to go to Kmart to get something for my feet since I had a blister and I asked everyone if it was okay to go. They said sure no problem. But that's not thinking about anyone else. We brought 6 beers...they weren't all finished and we weren't the only ones who drank them. Alcohol is not something I think to bring to ANYTHING since I don't drink a lot. Kamil remembered and I'm glad he did cause we would have been in even more trouble had we not. and I'm sorry but I seem to remember you eating our blueberries! He didn't bring any food for anyone either so why is this even being brought up.
I love how he makes it seem as if he did us a favor. That he "floated" us and that we didn't meet in the middle. No, Josh, we didn't go everywhere you wanted to and were okay with it! We clearly complained the whole time and made your life hell. If you know me at all you know that I am incredibly laid back and a go with the flow kind of person but when someone basically says that I didn't compromise at all, when I did everything they asked, it PISSES ME OFF! The whole your way or the highway comment makes me angry! If that were true then we would have been staying at Paola's brothers, and we would have gone to the grocery store when we wanted to, etc.
It's really unfortunate that the whole trip ended up leaving a bad taste in our mouth. Kamil is done being pushed around by Josh and is writing him an email right now to tell him so.
I leave you with a few pictures from the trip because the pictures are pretty cool!
( picturesCollapse )If you got through all of that, good for you! It was LONG and I'm not the most eloquent writer in the world. What do you think about this whole situation?