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Need this. radixark/Megatron-LM#24

Bug behavior

When running scripts/run-qwen3.5-35B-A3B-mtp-r3.sh, the logprob diff between train and inference (with r3):

Step 0: 0.006~0.009
Step 1: 0.025~0.04
Step 2: 0.025~0.04

There is a spike after the first training step.

Root cause

The original fix #975 enforced marked tensors' data type to fp32, but the timing is not correct.
convert_hf_to_torch_dist.py builds the model structure with wrap_with_ddp=False. In the real training, miles/backends/megatron_utils/model.py build the model structure with wrap_with_ddp=True and set up ddp.

Originally, we do the fp32 enforcement after get_model(). But if we call get_model(wrap_with_ddp=True), the ddp will be build in the get_model function with the wrong precision bf16. Even though we do the fp32 enforcement right after the get_model, it's still useless.

This also explain why step 0 is correct but step 1 is wrong. In step 0, we directly load the model weight from the converted ckpt with correct precision. But in step 1, we will do the fwd/bwd and update model weight with bf16 instead of fp32 and cause such a big numeric diff.

Solution

Do the enforcement in Megatron get_model() function before wrap_with_ddp. See radixark/Megatron-LM#24

Result

After the fix:

Step 0: 0.006~0.009
Step 1: 0.007~0.008
Step 2: 0.007~0.009

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This pull request introduces a _wrap_model_with_ddp function to ensure that fp32 parameter restoration is performed before Distributed Data Parallel (DDP) wrapping, preventing parameter detachment from buffers. It also adds a unit test to verify this sequence. The review feedback suggests addressing a hardcoded path in the test, replacing magic numbers in the bucket size calculation with constants, and removing an unnecessary CUDA stream during DDP initialization to reduce complexity.

Comment thread tests/fast/backends/megatron_utils/test_model_fp32_wrap_order.py Outdated
Comment thread miles/backends/megatron_utils/model.py Outdated
Comment thread miles/backends/megatron_utils/model.py Outdated
The dtype enforcement is no longer needed at these call sites; the
model provider now handles fp32 param marking natively.

Made-with: Cursor
With enforce_marked_param_dtypes removed, the custom DDP wrapper that
ran after fp32 restoration is no longer needed. Revert to letting
Megatron's get_model() handle DDP wrapping directly. Also remove the
now-obsolete test_model_fp32_wrap_order test.

Made-with: Cursor
@guapisolo guapisolo changed the title [fix] Restore marked fp32 params before DDP wrap [fix] Marked fp32 params before DDP wrap Apr 16, 2026
@guapisolo guapisolo changed the title [fix] Marked fp32 params before DDP wrap [fix] Enforce param dtype before wrap ddp Apr 16, 2026
@guapisolo guapisolo merged commit 5cc643f into main Apr 21, 2026
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DavidBellamy added a commit to LLM360/miles that referenced this pull request Apr 21, 2026
…region clusters (#10)

* Revert "[BUGFIX] [P2PRDMA] Add rollout post-processing after P2PRDMA weight updates" (radixark#882)

* [Fix] fix ci (radixark#894)

* Avoid threading for ray getting object (radixark#886)

* Add explicit errors for unsupported Megatron profiles (radixark#887)

* Add nvfp4 quantizer files (radixark#907)

* Bump flash-linear-attention version to 0.4.2 (radixark#892)

* [BUGFIX] Invoke "post_process_quantization" by default after weight updating (radixark#890)

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* Add heartbeat and id to session server (radixark#866)

* fix: adding thin glm5 image to docker build + latest tag sync (radixark#871)

* Add consistent hashing routing policy for rollout (radixark#891)

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* [example] add retool v2 example with multi-turn framework interfaces (radixark#654)

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* Expose rollout-batch-size, n-samples-per-prompt, global-batch-size as CLI args in swe-agent-v2 (radixark#954)

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* chore: remove obsolete swe-agent server.py and run-qwen3.sh (radixark#952)

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* Add weight staleness control for fully async rollout (radixark#958)

* Fix/pause generation mode (radixark#924)

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* [v0.5.10][1] Bump sglang to v0.5.10 (radixark#898)

* [v0.5.10][2] Fix apply_chat_template behavior for transformers >=5.0 (radixark#926)

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* [v0.5.10][5] Disable piecewise cuda graph to avoid NVLS oom (radixark#935)

* [v0.5.10][6][FSDP] fix outdated weight update logic in FSDP (radixark#948)

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* Add skiplist and more robust calculation on val (radixark#965)

* [fix] tiny fix debug rollout only in weight version check (radixark#967)

* feat: real cp support with relayout fix for qwen3.5 train/rollout mismatch (radixark#885)

* [AMD] Upgrade to sglv0.5.10 (radixark#973)

* switch model to actor (radixark#756)

* [fix] support general logic to bypass fp32 downcast and fix qwen35 A_log dtype (radixark#975)

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* Remove prepare_harbor_tasks.py; use harbor-private adapters (radixark#982)

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* wandb: raise init_timeout, add retry wrapper, fix shared-mode init for cross-region clusters

In online + shared mode, both `init_wandb_primary` and `init_wandb_secondary`
make HTTPS round-trips to wandb cloud (login + run create/attach). On
high-latency cross-region clusters (e.g. Abu Dhabi MBZUAI ↔ wandb-cloud
US-West) with concurrent actor bursts, a single round-trip can exceed the
wandb SDK's 90s default `init_timeout` — tearing down the whole run
with a silent handshake abort. Observed on RL360 job 1564420, which
forced `WANDB_MODE=offline` as a global default ever since (see
https://github.com/LLM360/RL360/issues/87).

The issue's original diagnosis assumed a local primary↔secondary socket
handshake race. That's not how shared mode works — per wandb's own
feature PR (wandb/wandb#6882), each writer spawns
an independent wandb-core that talks to the cloud directly; aggregation
is server-side by run_id. No local socket exists. The failure mode is
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Changes
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- Bump `init_timeout` to 300s for primary and secondary Settings.
  Configurable via `WANDB_INIT_TIMEOUT_SECS` env var for tuning.
- Wrap both init paths in a bounded exponential-backoff retry
  (`_wandb_init_with_retry`) that re-attempts on wandb.errors.CommError
  and wandb.errors.UsageError. 3 attempts with 5→10→20s backoff by
  default, tunable via `WANDB_INIT_RETRY_ATTEMPTS` /
  `WANDB_INIT_RETRY_BACKOFF_SECS`.
- Add `x_label` tagging per wandb distributed-training docs: primary
  gets `rank_<rank>_primary`, secondaries get `rank_<rank>_secondary`.
  Enables per-rank console-log filtering in the wandb UI.
- Drop `reinit=True` from secondary init_kwargs. Shared mode natively
  supports concurrent writers on a single run; `reinit=True` triggered
  stale-state warnings on secondary actors without functional benefit.

Followups this change enables
-----------------------------

- `WANDB_MODE=offline` can be removed from scale.yaml's extra_env
  default once a pilot run confirms online mode boots cleanly.
- The tmux-based `~/bin/wandb-sync-rl360.sh` workaround on David's M2
  account becomes obsolete (no more offline-only default).
- Near-realtime wandb dashboards replace the ~2-minute-lag offline
  sync; per-rank system metrics via x_label filtering.

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