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torch.empty_permuted is a generalized version of torch.empty(memory_format=...), where you can pass an arbitrary physical layout as a tuple of dims to allow you to setup dense, non-overlapping tensors with non-standard memory format. Check the docblock for a full description of semantics.

The initial motivation for this PR is with guard-less unbacked SymInts. Traditionally, the way we allocate dense tensors with arbitrary layout is with empty_strided. However, empty_strided does not know that the given strides are actually contiguous, and must test this manually to find out if it is the case. With empty_permuted, this is known statically to be the case and helps us skip some 0/1 guards.

However, I also think torch.empty_permuted is a useful API in its own right. It is technically possible to simulate this with an empty and a permute; however, there are some downsides:

  • The manual incant is tricky to work out. To allocate an NHWC tensor, the invocation is torch.empty(N, H, W, C).permute(0, 3, 1, 2); the permute call has to take NHWC to NCHW, and is the inverse of the permutation people are typically thinking of when they talk about NHWC (0, 2, 3, 1). Instead, torch.empty_permuted lets you say torch.empty_permuted((N, C, H, W), (0, 2, 3, 1)), letting you provide the intuitive permutation. It can be literally be read off as NHWC if you assign N=0, C=1, H=2, W=3.
  • An empty(requires_grad=True).permute() is no longer a leaf tensor. You can force it to be a leaf with a detach(), but it is more straightforward and less error prone to allow directly allocating a tensor with the correct permutation.

It is also technically possible to simulate this with empty_strided. However, this requires the user to manually compute the contiguous output strides and is bad from a reduction of guards perspective. For what it's worth, this is one of the more common uses of as_strided in the wild, and it would be nice to get rid of it.

A nice enhancement of this feature would be to accept physical_layout anywhere memory_format is accepted. However, this would be a pretty involved change, so I'm doing the easy thing instead.

Signed-off-by: Edward Z. Yang ezyang@meta.com

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torch.empty_permuted is a generalized version of torch.empty(memory_format=...), where you can pass an arbitrary physical layout as a tuple of dims to allow you to setup dense, non-overlapping tensors with non-standard memory format. Check the docblock for a full description of semantics.

The initial motivation for this PR is with guard-less unbacked SymInts. Traditionally, the way we allocate dense tensors with arbitrary layout is with `empty_strided`. However, `empty_strided` does not know that the given strides are actually contiguous, and must test this manually to find out if it is the case. With `empty_permuted`, this is known statically to be the case and helps us skip some 0/1 guards.

However, I also think torch.empty_permuted is a useful API in its own right. It is technically possible to simulate this with an empty and a permute; however, there are some downsides:

* The manual incant is tricky to work out. To allocate an NHWC tensor, the invocation is `torch.empty(N, H, W, C).permute(0, 3, 1, 2)`; the permute call has to take NHWC to NCHW, and is the *inverse* of the permutation people are typically thinking of when they talk about NHWC (0, 2, 3, 1). Instead, torch.empty_permuted lets you say `torch.empty_permuted((N, C, H, W), (0, 2, 3, 1))`, letting you provide the intuitive permutation. It can be literally be read off as NHWC if you assign N=0, C=1, H=2, W=3.
* An empty(requires_grad=True).permute() is no longer a leaf tensor. You can force it to be a leaf with a detach(), but it is more straightforward and less error prone to allow directly allocating a tensor with the correct permutation.

It is also technically possible to simulate this with empty_strided. However, this requires the user to manually compute the contiguous output strides and is bad from a reduction of guards perspective. For what it's worth, this is one of the more common uses of as_strided in the wild, and it would be nice to get rid of it.

A nice enhancement of this feature would be to accept `physical_layout` anywhere `memory_format` is accepted. However, this would be a pretty involved change, so I'm doing the easy thing instead.

Signed-off-by: Edward Z. Yang <ezyangmeta.com>

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torch.empty_permuted is a generalized version of torch.empty(memory_format=...), where you can pass an arbitrary physical layout as a tuple of dims to allow you to setup dense, non-overlapping tensors with non-standard memory format. Check the docblock for a full description of semantics.

The initial motivation for this PR is with guard-less unbacked SymInts. Traditionally, the way we allocate dense tensors with arbitrary layout is with `empty_strided`. However, `empty_strided` does not know that the given strides are actually contiguous, and must test this manually to find out if it is the case. With `empty_permuted`, this is known statically to be the case and helps us skip some 0/1 guards.

However, I also think torch.empty_permuted is a useful API in its own right. It is technically possible to simulate this with an empty and a permute; however, there are some downsides:

* The manual incant is tricky to work out. To allocate an NHWC tensor, the invocation is `torch.empty(N, H, W, C).permute(0, 3, 1, 2)`; the permute call has to take NHWC to NCHW, and is the *inverse* of the permutation people are typically thinking of when they talk about NHWC (0, 2, 3, 1). Instead, torch.empty_permuted lets you say `torch.empty_permuted((N, C, H, W), (0, 2, 3, 1))`, letting you provide the intuitive permutation. It can be literally be read off as NHWC if you assign N=0, C=1, H=2, W=3.
* An empty(requires_grad=True).permute() is no longer a leaf tensor. You can force it to be a leaf with a detach(), but it is more straightforward and less error prone to allow directly allocating a tensor with the correct permutation.

It is also technically possible to simulate this with empty_strided. However, this requires the user to manually compute the contiguous output strides and is bad from a reduction of guards perspective. For what it's worth, this is one of the more common uses of as_strided in the wild, and it would be nice to get rid of it.

A nice enhancement of this feature would be to accept `physical_layout` anywhere `memory_format` is accepted. However, this would be a pretty involved change, so I'm doing the easy thing instead.

Signed-off-by: Edward Z. Yang <ezyangmeta.com>

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SGTM!

torch.empty_permuted is a generalized version of torch.empty(memory_format=...), where you can pass an arbitrary physical layout as a tuple of dims to allow you to setup dense, non-overlapping tensors with non-standard memory format. Check the docblock for a full description of semantics.

The initial motivation for this PR is with guard-less unbacked SymInts. Traditionally, the way we allocate dense tensors with arbitrary layout is with `empty_strided`. However, `empty_strided` does not know that the given strides are actually contiguous, and must test this manually to find out if it is the case. With `empty_permuted`, this is known statically to be the case and helps us skip some 0/1 guards.

However, I also think torch.empty_permuted is a useful API in its own right. It is technically possible to simulate this with an empty and a permute; however, there are some downsides:

* The manual incant is tricky to work out. To allocate an NHWC tensor, the invocation is `torch.empty(N, H, W, C).permute(0, 3, 1, 2)`; the permute call has to take NHWC to NCHW, and is the *inverse* of the permutation people are typically thinking of when they talk about NHWC (0, 2, 3, 1). Instead, torch.empty_permuted lets you say `torch.empty_permuted((N, C, H, W), (0, 2, 3, 1))`, letting you provide the intuitive permutation. It can be literally be read off as NHWC if you assign N=0, C=1, H=2, W=3.
* An empty(requires_grad=True).permute() is no longer a leaf tensor. You can force it to be a leaf with a detach(), but it is more straightforward and less error prone to allow directly allocating a tensor with the correct permutation.

It is also technically possible to simulate this with empty_strided. However, this requires the user to manually compute the contiguous output strides and is bad from a reduction of guards perspective. For what it's worth, this is one of the more common uses of as_strided in the wild, and it would be nice to get rid of it.

A nice enhancement of this feature would be to accept `physical_layout` anywhere `memory_format` is accepted. However, this would be a pretty involved change, so I'm doing the easy thing instead.

Signed-off-by: Edward Z. Yang <ezyangmeta.com>

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Tensor empty_permuted_symint(SymIntArrayRef size, IntArrayRef physical_layout, c10::optional<ScalarType> dtype_opt,
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do you want any error checking that physical layout is a permutation of range(len(physical_layout))?

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Hmm, that's a good idea...

torch.empty_permuted is a generalized version of torch.empty(memory_format=...), where you can pass an arbitrary physical layout as a tuple of dims to allow you to setup dense, non-overlapping tensors with non-standard memory format. Check the docblock for a full description of semantics.

The initial motivation for this PR is with guard-less unbacked SymInts. Traditionally, the way we allocate dense tensors with arbitrary layout is with `empty_strided`. However, `empty_strided` does not know that the given strides are actually contiguous, and must test this manually to find out if it is the case. With `empty_permuted`, this is known statically to be the case and helps us skip some 0/1 guards.

However, I also think torch.empty_permuted is a useful API in its own right. It is technically possible to simulate this with an empty and a permute; however, there are some downsides:

* The manual incant is tricky to work out. To allocate an NHWC tensor, the invocation is `torch.empty(N, H, W, C).permute(0, 3, 1, 2)`; the permute call has to take NHWC to NCHW, and is the *inverse* of the permutation people are typically thinking of when they talk about NHWC (0, 2, 3, 1). Instead, torch.empty_permuted lets you say `torch.empty_permuted((N, C, H, W), (0, 2, 3, 1))`, letting you provide the intuitive permutation. It can be literally be read off as NHWC if you assign N=0, C=1, H=2, W=3.
* An empty(requires_grad=True).permute() is no longer a leaf tensor. You can force it to be a leaf with a detach(), but it is more straightforward and less error prone to allow directly allocating a tensor with the correct permutation.

It is also technically possible to simulate this with empty_strided. However, this requires the user to manually compute the contiguous output strides and is bad from a reduction of guards perspective. For what it's worth, this is one of the more common uses of as_strided in the wild, and it would be nice to get rid of it.

A nice enhancement of this feature would be to accept `physical_layout` anywhere `memory_format` is accepted. However, this would be a pretty involved change, so I'm doing the easy thing instead.

Signed-off-by: Edward Z. Yang <ezyangmeta.com>

cc soumith voznesenskym yanboliang penguinwu anijain2305 EikanWang jgong5 Guobing-Chen XiaobingSuper zhuhaozhe blzheng Xia-Weiwen wenzhe-nrv jiayisunx peterbell10 desertfire

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torch.empty_permuted is a generalized version of torch.empty(memory_format=...), where you can pass an arbitrary physical layout as a tuple of dims to allow you to setup dense, non-overlapping tensors with non-standard memory format. Check the docblock for a full description of semantics.

The initial motivation for this PR is with guard-less unbacked SymInts. Traditionally, the way we allocate dense tensors with arbitrary layout is with `empty_strided`. However, `empty_strided` does not know that the given strides are actually contiguous, and must test this manually to find out if it is the case. With `empty_permuted`, this is known statically to be the case and helps us skip some 0/1 guards.

However, I also think torch.empty_permuted is a useful API in its own right. It is technically possible to simulate this with an empty and a permute; however, there are some downsides:

* The manual incant is tricky to work out. To allocate an NHWC tensor, the invocation is `torch.empty(N, H, W, C).permute(0, 3, 1, 2)`; the permute call has to take NHWC to NCHW, and is the *inverse* of the permutation people are typically thinking of when they talk about NHWC (0, 2, 3, 1). Instead, torch.empty_permuted lets you say `torch.empty_permuted((N, C, H, W), (0, 2, 3, 1))`, letting you provide the intuitive permutation. It can be literally be read off as NHWC if you assign N=0, C=1, H=2, W=3.
* An empty(requires_grad=True).permute() is no longer a leaf tensor. You can force it to be a leaf with a detach(), but it is more straightforward and less error prone to allow directly allocating a tensor with the correct permutation.

It is also technically possible to simulate this with empty_strided. However, this requires the user to manually compute the contiguous output strides and is bad from a reduction of guards perspective. For what it's worth, this is one of the more common uses of as_strided in the wild, and it would be nice to get rid of it.

A nice enhancement of this feature would be to accept `physical_layout` anywhere `memory_format` is accepted. However, this would be a pretty involved change, so I'm doing the easy thing instead.

Signed-off-by: Edward Z. Yang <ezyangmeta.com>

cc soumith voznesenskym yanboliang penguinwu anijain2305 EikanWang jgong5 Guobing-Chen XiaobingSuper zhuhaozhe blzheng Xia-Weiwen wenzhe-nrv jiayisunx peterbell10 desertfire

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torch.empty_permuted is a generalized version of torch.empty(memory_format=...), where you can pass an arbitrary physical layout as a tuple of dims to allow you to setup dense, non-overlapping tensors with non-standard memory format. Check the docblock for a full description of semantics.

The initial motivation for this PR is with guard-less unbacked SymInts. Traditionally, the way we allocate dense tensors with arbitrary layout is with `empty_strided`. However, `empty_strided` does not know that the given strides are actually contiguous, and must test this manually to find out if it is the case. With `empty_permuted`, this is known statically to be the case and helps us skip some 0/1 guards.

However, I also think torch.empty_permuted is a useful API in its own right. It is technically possible to simulate this with an empty and a permute; however, there are some downsides:

* The manual incant is tricky to work out. To allocate an NHWC tensor, the invocation is `torch.empty(N, H, W, C).permute(0, 3, 1, 2)`; the permute call has to take NHWC to NCHW, and is the *inverse* of the permutation people are typically thinking of when they talk about NHWC (0, 2, 3, 1). Instead, torch.empty_permuted lets you say `torch.empty_permuted((N, C, H, W), (0, 2, 3, 1))`, letting you provide the intuitive permutation. It can be literally be read off as NHWC if you assign N=0, C=1, H=2, W=3.
* An empty(requires_grad=True).permute() is no longer a leaf tensor. You can force it to be a leaf with a detach(), but it is more straightforward and less error prone to allow directly allocating a tensor with the correct permutation.

It is also technically possible to simulate this with empty_strided. However, this requires the user to manually compute the contiguous output strides and is bad from a reduction of guards perspective. For what it's worth, this is one of the more common uses of as_strided in the wild, and it would be nice to get rid of it.

A nice enhancement of this feature would be to accept `physical_layout` anywhere `memory_format` is accepted. However, this would be a pretty involved change, so I'm doing the easy thing instead.

Signed-off-by: Edward Z. Yang <ezyang@meta.com>

Pull Request resolved: pytorch#95069
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