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I guess there could be an auto collect mode, where when you send a HB and the response has a message for you, it will collect it automatically. |
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I agree the current implementation of the MSG inbox is not really all that great. You get one popup notification that there's a MSG in it and then it goes away if you close that. There's not even a keyboard shortcut to open the dialog for it. It would be nice if the MSG inbox was incorporated into the mainwindow somehow. Perhaps by splitting the band activity pane and put the MSG inbox list into the lower half it or something. But that might cause an issue on small screens. @rruchte you got any brilliant ideas on this? Directed always appears in the center top pane. Stored never appears unless it is opened from the menu. If that MSG inbox list could be (somehow) displayed all the time, the popup that says "You Got Mail" would not be needed. If you have stored MSG's for other stations to retrieve, that could be more easily reviewed. Have to think this over a bit. |
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@Chris-AC9KH I'll give it some thought, there is a lot of potential there. Making messaging more of a first-class UI priority would unlock a lot of utility for non-power users. The current way of interacting with messages is pretty arcane - I wrote the group messaging and even I have to really stop and think about how it works when I use it to send messages. It's like the UNIX tar command - I many have been using it for 30 years, but I still get it wrong on a regular basis. |
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@rruchte yeah, there should be a way to do this. The basic UI hasn't been improved since the word "go". And implementing some sort of better integration of the MSG inbox with the main window would be one of the most significant improvements in how that works to-date. I'll do some scheming too :-) |
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@rruchte @Joe-K0OG @wmiler I came up with a wild idea on this. The waterfall does not need to cover the entire width of the main window on any screen size I'm aware of. So that could be shortened up to extend the length of the band activity pane to the bottom of the main window. Then split that pane in two and use the bottom half of it for the MSG inbox. And a simple double click on one of the database fields in the MSG inbox list opens the message in a popup window. With Qt, this would not be difficult to lay out at all. |
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I like it. |
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This would be fine, but as an option. I would be prefer to maintain the current layout for my small screen. 73, |
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I'm going to go with Joe on this, remember, some peeps are on a 7" screen for their raspberry pi's. Having said that, I'm for UI improvements in general, will have to think on it a bit. |
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Well, WSJT-x-improved has several different versions of their software. The Widescreen version. The Standard GUI. The AL (alternative layout) for small screens. Theoretically, with Qt this can be accomplished with one program with a user-dialog setting to select which layout you like. Would require a few if statements in the code to implement the particular Qt layout you would like to use. But it is doable, and would be even cooler than what WSJT-x-improved has. |
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I have different machines, smaller for mobile operations, sometimes I don't see all of the waterfall, maybe a pop up that stays there or just make the word view at the top of the main window go red, then nothing will need to be added to the existing screen.
But I have no idea how difficult that may be.
Thanks for looking into this.
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This would be fine, but as an option. I would be prefer to maintain the current layout for my small screen.
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I dunno. The current implementation of the MSG inbox is pretty horrible. It doesn't even clear the notification flag in the call activity unless you close the MSG inbox pane. So can't leave that open all the time. I think it would be better to incorporate it into the main window UI. |
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Would it be possible to have an indication on the main screen that a message has been sent to your message in box. like make the view tab red or a number of messages by view or similar.
It may be good if the software could highlight a HB response sent to your station with a message ID ( M0MKR G4TKS HEARTBEAT SNR +14 MSG ID 3 ) to be more obvious that you need to collect the message, maybe a pop up box that does not go away until clicked for collection or cancelled for later collection, when collect is clicked, your station sends the query command and message number to the station in question.
This may make the messaging simpler as it seems most people do not know how it works or how to use it.
Or an explanation that there are three different message methods in play, direct keyboard to keyboard, direct delivery to in box and stored for collection. The reasons for each where keyboard to keyboard, for when you have propagation and you are both at the keyboard, direct delivery to in box when you have propagation and the recipient is not at the keyboard, and stored for collection when you have no propagation at the time and the recipient can collect it when there is propagation between your stations.
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