Libratone documentation #68
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Below is an example of the If you see line like this one : use a |
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Moving to "Discussions" 👍 |
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Unfortunately it does not work for me. Seems to only work if device has not been reset during testing. My device is trying to login to vtuner with the mac id:
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Indeed this works if your favorites are still stored in the speaker. If you reset then you have to understand the process to add favorites in the first place which is a different scope It looks however like the semantics is the same as noxon which provides some documentation about the api and what is sent and expected in return. https://cweiske.de/noxon-api.htm#initial-urls The author also provides a code for the server side it seems (links are one the page above) I don’t know if turner does or even can emulate this initial setup process |
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@01sonne The only difference is that you should use a xml file with the name
This documentation is not provided by Noxon but by Christian Weiske.
YTuner use |
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This seems like an excellent work-around. Thank you for the effort. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work with my Zipp. My device switches through the presets and I've copied and modified the company.vtuner.com.xml file as instructed but no sound comes out of the speaker. The ytuner console returns this information: Any suggestions as to get this going? I feel I'm pretty close :-) Thanks in advance. |
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Oh wow! I'm entering a whole new universe with this termshark. I have no idea what I'm looking at :-) |
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You do it right ! And we see UDP Dns requests. Good that you've learned a little to analyze network traffic with this powerful termshark tool. There seems to be no tcp dns request, only UDP. it looks like, you're network is using Dual-Stack (ipv4/ipv6). Sometimes it produces issues when not setup properly. ipv4/6 is a deep dive. Greg, any other idea ? |
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Yes thanks for the idea. After some consideration, I don't think I will put ytuner on my router itself because
But for future reference, do you know the RAM / cpu footprint when idle or streaming ? |
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It all depends on the selected cache mode and the intensity of browsing new stations (placing all of them in the cache). It is difficult to determine this unequivocally. If you need more detailed information on how to run YTuner on OpenWRT, ask @rkerschn for help. 👍 |
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Just checked and the Zipp does support HTTP 302 redirects too! |
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@evkruining2 |
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@coffeegreg |
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You and @TheBossME will get along well 😉 As Beatrice said some day : You can live without Proxmox but such a life has no sense 😉 |
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Ok, after some more testing, sniffing, tweaking and sweating, I need to conclude that the Zipp manual settings are wonky and do not work properly. As mentioned above to @ndx1905-github, the only way to actually save the manual ip and dns settings in the advanced section of the Zipp configuration (web)page, is to also re-select the wifi network. The only thing that works is to let the Zipp use DHCP and have it pick-up a DNS server from the DHCP options. For some inexplicable reason, the Zipp then actually does use that address. On my own network I managed to get it working by adding a DNS regex rule in my pihole configuration to redirect all .vtuner.com requests to my ytuner instance (eliminating the need for DNS-enable ytuner) For another network (at my girlfriends home) where there's no pihole, I have installed both ytuner and dnsmasq on a RPI zero 2w. Dnsmasq is configured to only act as DHCP server, while ytuner acts as the DNS server. Naturally I had to disable the ip4 DHCP server in the router to prevent unpredictable results. So far this setup also works fine. Hopefully it will prove to be resilient. @coffeegreg I don't think updated test binaries are needed. Your code is not the issue here. Again, thanks for your help and support! |
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So ... it looks like YTuner DNS service works fine. 🤔 @evkruining2 @TheBossME @ndx1905-github |
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Indeed. I've reached out to Libratone support, asking if there is fix available. Fingers crossed :-) |
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I think I had these sort of issues... but I told Claude to investigate and fix it... eventually it came back and everything worked... thank goodness for the power of AI. |
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So Libratone has fixed the problem on their side and pushed a firmware update https://libratone.shop/pages/support I wonder if it breaks the ytuner fix. Don't dare to update.. Anyone tried? |
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Oh wow! My Zipp miraculously came back to life! About 40 minutes after started the firmware update, the blinking dots stopped blinking an my Zipp seemed to have powered down. It started back up again, connected to my network and shows as online in the Libratone app. I didn't change my phole rules so all requests to vtuner.com are still routed through ytuner. I looked at the ytuner log and now my Zipp is trying to connect to company2.vtuner.com, when I press one of the presets :-) When I disable my pihole catch-all rule and set free the vtuner domain, all seems to work again!! The presets work and the radio station browser in the app also works again! |
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Yes, I also updated my Zipp Mini. It is working again without the redirects to ytuner.
Interestingly when I activated stations.ini, the box played the first station from the ini file on all preset buttons. |
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It will start working through ytuner when you copy your company.vtuner.com.xml to company2.vtuner.com.xml configuration file in the ytuner/config directory. Notice the "Device: ? -? company2.ytuner.com" line in the ytuner log? That has changed after the firmware upgrade (before it queried company.vtuner.com) |
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I already changed that to company2.vtuner.com.xml, unfortunately that had no effect. |
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I got Claude to take on the task... and it came up with this... hopefully there's something of use... I managed to get the thing to work, 5 presets per speaker, with the presets maintained on the PI. YTuner Setup for Libratone SpeakersOverviewThis document explains how YTuner has been configured to work with Libratone speakers, which have hardcoded preset IDs that cannot be changed. The ProblemLibratone speakers have firmware-embedded preset IDs (like 3158, 13417, 80195, etc.) that are sent to the vTuner service when you press preset buttons. YTuner v1.2.6 has basic Libratone support but requires proper configuration. The Solution1. Key Configuration ChangesFile:
File:
2. Device-Specific Configuration FilesEach Libratone speaker has its own XML file in Speaker 1:
Speaker 2:
3. How It WorksWhen a Libratone speaker presses preset button:
Adding a New Libratone SpeakerStep 1: Identify the Speaker's IP and Preset IDs
tail -100 /var/log/nginx/access.log | grep "sSearchtype=3"Look for lines like: Step 2: Create Device Configuration FileCreate <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<ListOfItems>
<ItemCount>5</ItemCount>
<Item>
<ItemType>Station</ItemType>
<StationId>UNB[PRESET_ID_1]</StationId>
<StationName>Station Name</StationName>
<StationUrl>http://stream-url-here</StationUrl>
<StationDesc>Preset 1</StationDesc>
<Logo></Logo>
<StationFormat>Genre</StationFormat>
<StationLocation></StationLocation>
<StationBandWidth></StationBandWidth>
<StationMime></StationMime>
<Relia>3</Relia>
<Bookmark></Bookmark>
</Item>
<!-- Repeat for each preset with UNB[PRESET_ID_2], etc. -->
</ListOfItems>Important Notes:
Step 3: Restart YTunersudo systemctl restart ytunerCustomizing StationsTo Change a Station on a Speaker
sudo nano /opt/ytuner/config/192.168.5.31.xml
sudo systemctl restart ytunerFinding Station URLsSearch for stations on Radio Browser: curl -s "http://all.api.radio-browser.info/json/stations/search?name=STATION_NAME&countrycode=GB&codec=MP3&hidebroken=true" | python3 -c "import sys, json; stations = json.load(sys.stdin); [print(f\"{s['name']}: {s['url']}\") for s in stations[:5]]"Replace Station Compatibility✅ Compatible:
❌ Not Compatible:
TroubleshootingSpeaker plays the same station for all presets
grep "proxy_set_header Host" /etc/nginx/sites-available/ytuner-proxyShould show: Speaker doesn't play anything
timeout 3 curl http://stream-url-here | head -c 100
tail -50 /var/log/ytuner.logFind which presets are being usedCheck nginx access log: tail -50 /var/log/nginx/access.log | grep "192.168.5.XX"Restart services after changes# After changing ytuner.ini or station XML files:
sudo systemctl restart ytuner
# After changing nginx config:
sudo nginx -t
sudo systemctl reload nginxFile Locations
Current ConfigurationServer: 192.168.5.180 Configured Speakers:
Current Stations (Both Speakers):
Additional Resources
Notes
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Specific Libratone documentation (tested with Libratone ZIPP)
1/ Install ytuner (release 1.2.6 and up only for Libratone) as per regular instructions.
2/ make sure debug mode is on, ie check your ytuner.ini file in the [Configuration] section, you should have MessageInfoLevel=4
While you're there, go to the [MyStations] section and set Enable=0, and do the same in the [Radiobrowser] section, Enable=0
Remember to set
Enable=1andCommonBookmark=0in[Bookmark]section andEnable=1in[DNSServer]section too.3/ run ytuner
4/ look at the console, you should see something like
5/ Look for the ip address of the server that, in the example 192.168.1.145
6/ connect to your Libratone directly through the web interface using your browser and go to the advanced settings and enter the above ip address in the DNS part
If your Libratone does not save this setting, you have to find a work around and have your router catch the traffic that your speaker intends to send to vtuner.com. To do so you need to know a bit about dsnmasq and your router features. If like me you use openwrt, go to the Network > DNS and DHCP section, and stay in the general tab there. Look for "Addresses" and add this in the field next to it : " /.vtuner.com/192.168.1.145 " (don't forget the first dot which is akin to * to include all subdomains and change the ip address by the one you saw above in 4/ for your config)
Save and apply, or even reboot
7/ run ytuner again, and look at the console like before. While doing this, push the favorite buttons on your Libratone, until you can see logs for each 5 favorites. It should look like this but with different numbers at the end of the lines. Those are the numbers you want to write down for later. So for me in this example I’ll write down 3251, 5177, 1307, 3252 and 83158.
8/ stop ytuner and go to the ytuner config directory, and create or edit the
company.vtuner.com.xmlfile (YTuner v1.2.6 does not have this file as default). This file should looks like :❗ If you see in the YTuner's log line like this one :
use a
7bb9a18642c474cd63d3ad0a82673104.xmlfile insteadcompany.vtuner.com.xmlwith the same content.Change every favorite Station Id with the numbers you have written down before and add UNB before so that you have something like this UNB3251 with the corresponding number seen above.
For the same block add a url pointing to a radio stream. For instance I will put http://direct.franceinter.fr/live/franceinter-hifi.aac
You can find radio stream urls here http://radio-browser.info
9/ restart ytuner, it should now work
If you are reading this for the first time and don't want to read the entire discussion, please read this #68 (comment) too.
Remember. This tutorial is only for Libratone devices which are quite basic and cannot use most of the features offered by YTuner.
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