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Summary

  • clamp /skill command descriptions and the shared args description so the generated Discord payload stays compact
  • trim excess /skill subcommands only when the generated group would still exceed Discord's 8000-byte limit
  • add regression coverage for an oversized synthetic catalog and for the current built-in skill catalog budget

Closes #11321.

Why

Discord currently rejects the generated /skill command group with:

Command exceeds maximum size (8000)

That blocks slash-command sync during gateway startup. On the current built-in catalog, the pre-fix payload is about 12119 characters by the same estimator, while the compacted version fits at about 5703 without hiding any built-in skills.

Testing

  • python3 -m pytest -o addopts='' tests/gateway/test_discord_slash_commands.py
  • python3 -m pytest -o addopts='' tests/gateway/test_discord_connect.py tests/gateway/test_discord_send.py tests/gateway/test_discord_document_handling.py

@LeonSGP43 LeonSGP43 force-pushed the fix/discord-skill-group-size-limit branch from c6ac47a to fec19de Compare April 17, 2026 04:41
teknium1 added a commit that referenced this pull request Apr 17, 2026
…trivially

Closes #11321, closes #10259.

## Problem

The nested /skill command group (category subcommand groups + skill
subcommands) serialized to ~14KB with the default 75-skill catalog,
exceeding Discord's ~8000-byte per-command registration payload. The
entire tree.sync() rejected with error 50035 — ALL slash commands
including the 27 base commands failed to register.

## Fix

Replace the nested Group layout with a single flat Command:

    /skill name:<autocomplete> args:<optional string>

Autocomplete options are fetched dynamically by Discord when the user
types — they do NOT count against the per-command registration budget.
So this single command registers at ~200 bytes regardless of how many
skills exist. Scales to thousands of skills with no size calculations,
no splitting, no hidden skills.

UX improvements:
- Discord live-filters by user's typed prefix against BOTH name and
  description, so '/skill pdf' finds 'ocr-and-documents' via its
  description. More discoverable than clicking through category menus.
- Unknown skill name → ephemeral error pointing user at autocomplete.
- Stable alphabetical ordering across restarts.

## Why not the other proposed approaches

Three prior PRs tried to fit within the 8KB limit by modifying the
nested layout:

- #10214 (njiangk): truncated all descriptions to 'Run <name>' and
  category descriptions to 'Skills'. Works but destroys slash picker UX.
- #11385 (LeonSGP43): 40-char description clamp + iterative
  trim-largest-category fallback. Works but HIDES skills the user can
  no longer invoke via slash — functional regression.
- #10261 (zeapsu): adaptive split into /skill-<cat> top-level groups.
  Preserves all skills but pollutes the slash namespace with 20
  top-level commands.

All three work around the symptom. The flat autocomplete design
dissolves the problem — there is no payload-size pressure to manage.

## Tests

tests/gateway/test_discord_slash_commands.py — 5 new test cases replace
the 3 old nested-structure tests:

- flat-not-nested structure assertion
- empty skills → no command registered
- callback dispatches the right cmd_key by name
- unknown name → ephemeral error, no dispatch
- large-catalog regression guard (500 skills) — command payload stays
  under 500 bytes regardless

E2E validated against real discord.py 2.7.1:
- Command registers as discord.app_commands.Command (not Group).
- Autocomplete filters by name AND description (verified across several
  queries including description-only matches like 'pdf' → OCR skill).
- 500-skill catalog returns max 25 results per autocomplete query
  (Discord's hard cap), filtered correctly.
- Choice labels formatted as 'name — description' clamped to 100 chars.
teknium1 added a commit that referenced this pull request Apr 17, 2026
…trivially (#11580)

Closes #11321, closes #10259.

## Problem

The nested /skill command group (category subcommand groups + skill
subcommands) serialized to ~14KB with the default 75-skill catalog,
exceeding Discord's ~8000-byte per-command registration payload. The
entire tree.sync() rejected with error 50035 — ALL slash commands
including the 27 base commands failed to register.

## Fix

Replace the nested Group layout with a single flat Command:

    /skill name:<autocomplete> args:<optional string>

Autocomplete options are fetched dynamically by Discord when the user
types — they do NOT count against the per-command registration budget.
So this single command registers at ~200 bytes regardless of how many
skills exist. Scales to thousands of skills with no size calculations,
no splitting, no hidden skills.

UX improvements:
- Discord live-filters by user's typed prefix against BOTH name and
  description, so '/skill pdf' finds 'ocr-and-documents' via its
  description. More discoverable than clicking through category menus.
- Unknown skill name → ephemeral error pointing user at autocomplete.
- Stable alphabetical ordering across restarts.

## Why not the other proposed approaches

Three prior PRs tried to fit within the 8KB limit by modifying the
nested layout:

- #10214 (njiangk): truncated all descriptions to 'Run <name>' and
  category descriptions to 'Skills'. Works but destroys slash picker UX.
- #11385 (LeonSGP43): 40-char description clamp + iterative
  trim-largest-category fallback. Works but HIDES skills the user can
  no longer invoke via slash — functional regression.
- #10261 (zeapsu): adaptive split into /skill-<cat> top-level groups.
  Preserves all skills but pollutes the slash namespace with 20
  top-level commands.

All three work around the symptom. The flat autocomplete design
dissolves the problem — there is no payload-size pressure to manage.

## Tests

tests/gateway/test_discord_slash_commands.py — 5 new test cases replace
the 3 old nested-structure tests:

- flat-not-nested structure assertion
- empty skills → no command registered
- callback dispatches the right cmd_key by name
- unknown name → ephemeral error, no dispatch
- large-catalog regression guard (500 skills) — command payload stays
  under 500 bytes regardless

E2E validated against real discord.py 2.7.1:
- Command registers as discord.app_commands.Command (not Group).
- Autocomplete filters by name AND description (verified across several
  queries including description-only matches like 'pdf' → OCR skill).
- 500-skill catalog returns max 25 results per autocomplete query
  (Discord's hard cap), filtered correctly.
- Choice labels formatted as 'name — description' clamped to 100 chars.
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Closing in favor of a different approach — #11580#11580

Great engineering work — the size estimator + trim-largest-category fallback was a correct and well-tested solution, and the test_real_skill_catalog_fits_discord_size_budget regression idea was sharp.

We went with a flat /skill name:<autocomplete> args:<string> layout instead. Autocomplete values are fetched dynamically by Discord and don't count toward the 8KB per-command budget, so the registration payload stays ~200 bytes regardless of catalog size — no estimator needed, and no skills get hidden (your approach correctly identified that hiding was the main tradeoff of the trim path).

Thanks for the thorough writeup and tests — you're credited in the merge commit body.

@teknium1 teknium1 closed this Apr 17, 2026
ulasbilgen pushed a commit to ulasbilgen/hermes-adhd-agent that referenced this pull request May 1, 2026
…trivially (NousResearch#11580)

Closes NousResearch#11321, closes NousResearch#10259.

## Problem

The nested /skill command group (category subcommand groups + skill
subcommands) serialized to ~14KB with the default 75-skill catalog,
exceeding Discord's ~8000-byte per-command registration payload. The
entire tree.sync() rejected with error 50035 — ALL slash commands
including the 27 base commands failed to register.

## Fix

Replace the nested Group layout with a single flat Command:

    /skill name:<autocomplete> args:<optional string>

Autocomplete options are fetched dynamically by Discord when the user
types — they do NOT count against the per-command registration budget.
So this single command registers at ~200 bytes regardless of how many
skills exist. Scales to thousands of skills with no size calculations,
no splitting, no hidden skills.

UX improvements:
- Discord live-filters by user's typed prefix against BOTH name and
  description, so '/skill pdf' finds 'ocr-and-documents' via its
  description. More discoverable than clicking through category menus.
- Unknown skill name → ephemeral error pointing user at autocomplete.
- Stable alphabetical ordering across restarts.

## Why not the other proposed approaches

Three prior PRs tried to fit within the 8KB limit by modifying the
nested layout:

- NousResearch#10214 (njiangk): truncated all descriptions to 'Run <name>' and
  category descriptions to 'Skills'. Works but destroys slash picker UX.
- NousResearch#11385 (LeonSGP43): 40-char description clamp + iterative
  trim-largest-category fallback. Works but HIDES skills the user can
  no longer invoke via slash — functional regression.
- NousResearch#10261 (zeapsu): adaptive split into /skill-<cat> top-level groups.
  Preserves all skills but pollutes the slash namespace with 20
  top-level commands.

All three work around the symptom. The flat autocomplete design
dissolves the problem — there is no payload-size pressure to manage.

## Tests

tests/gateway/test_discord_slash_commands.py — 5 new test cases replace
the 3 old nested-structure tests:

- flat-not-nested structure assertion
- empty skills → no command registered
- callback dispatches the right cmd_key by name
- unknown name → ephemeral error, no dispatch
- large-catalog regression guard (500 skills) — command payload stays
  under 500 bytes regardless

E2E validated against real discord.py 2.7.1:
- Command registers as discord.app_commands.Command (not Group).
- Autocomplete filters by name AND description (verified across several
  queries including description-only matches like 'pdf' → OCR skill).
- 500-skill catalog returns max 25 results per autocomplete query
  (Discord's hard cap), filtered correctly.
- Choice labels formatted as 'name — description' clamped to 100 chars.
aj-nt pushed a commit to aj-nt/hermes-agent that referenced this pull request May 1, 2026
…trivially (NousResearch#11580)

Closes NousResearch#11321, closes NousResearch#10259.

## Problem

The nested /skill command group (category subcommand groups + skill
subcommands) serialized to ~14KB with the default 75-skill catalog,
exceeding Discord's ~8000-byte per-command registration payload. The
entire tree.sync() rejected with error 50035 — ALL slash commands
including the 27 base commands failed to register.

## Fix

Replace the nested Group layout with a single flat Command:

    /skill name:<autocomplete> args:<optional string>

Autocomplete options are fetched dynamically by Discord when the user
types — they do NOT count against the per-command registration budget.
So this single command registers at ~200 bytes regardless of how many
skills exist. Scales to thousands of skills with no size calculations,
no splitting, no hidden skills.

UX improvements:
- Discord live-filters by user's typed prefix against BOTH name and
  description, so '/skill pdf' finds 'ocr-and-documents' via its
  description. More discoverable than clicking through category menus.
- Unknown skill name → ephemeral error pointing user at autocomplete.
- Stable alphabetical ordering across restarts.

## Why not the other proposed approaches

Three prior PRs tried to fit within the 8KB limit by modifying the
nested layout:

- NousResearch#10214 (njiangk): truncated all descriptions to 'Run <name>' and
  category descriptions to 'Skills'. Works but destroys slash picker UX.
- NousResearch#11385 (LeonSGP43): 40-char description clamp + iterative
  trim-largest-category fallback. Works but HIDES skills the user can
  no longer invoke via slash — functional regression.
- NousResearch#10261 (zeapsu): adaptive split into /skill-<cat> top-level groups.
  Preserves all skills but pollutes the slash namespace with 20
  top-level commands.

All three work around the symptom. The flat autocomplete design
dissolves the problem — there is no payload-size pressure to manage.

## Tests

tests/gateway/test_discord_slash_commands.py — 5 new test cases replace
the 3 old nested-structure tests:

- flat-not-nested structure assertion
- empty skills → no command registered
- callback dispatches the right cmd_key by name
- unknown name → ephemeral error, no dispatch
- large-catalog regression guard (500 skills) — command payload stays
  under 500 bytes regardless

E2E validated against real discord.py 2.7.1:
- Command registers as discord.app_commands.Command (not Group).
- Autocomplete filters by name AND description (verified across several
  queries including description-only matches like 'pdf' → OCR skill).
- 500-skill catalog returns max 25 results per autocomplete query
  (Discord's hard cap), filtered correctly.
- Choice labels formatted as 'name — description' clamped to 100 chars.
02356abc pushed a commit to 02356abc/hermes-agent that referenced this pull request May 14, 2026
…trivially (NousResearch#11580)

Closes NousResearch#11321, closes NousResearch#10259.

## Problem

The nested /skill command group (category subcommand groups + skill
subcommands) serialized to ~14KB with the default 75-skill catalog,
exceeding Discord's ~8000-byte per-command registration payload. The
entire tree.sync() rejected with error 50035 — ALL slash commands
including the 27 base commands failed to register.

## Fix

Replace the nested Group layout with a single flat Command:

    /skill name:<autocomplete> args:<optional string>

Autocomplete options are fetched dynamically by Discord when the user
types — they do NOT count against the per-command registration budget.
So this single command registers at ~200 bytes regardless of how many
skills exist. Scales to thousands of skills with no size calculations,
no splitting, no hidden skills.

UX improvements:
- Discord live-filters by user's typed prefix against BOTH name and
  description, so '/skill pdf' finds 'ocr-and-documents' via its
  description. More discoverable than clicking through category menus.
- Unknown skill name → ephemeral error pointing user at autocomplete.
- Stable alphabetical ordering across restarts.

## Why not the other proposed approaches

Three prior PRs tried to fit within the 8KB limit by modifying the
nested layout:

- NousResearch#10214 (njiangk): truncated all descriptions to 'Run <name>' and
  category descriptions to 'Skills'. Works but destroys slash picker UX.
- NousResearch#11385 (LeonSGP43): 40-char description clamp + iterative
  trim-largest-category fallback. Works but HIDES skills the user can
  no longer invoke via slash — functional regression.
- NousResearch#10261 (zeapsu): adaptive split into /skill-<cat> top-level groups.
  Preserves all skills but pollutes the slash namespace with 20
  top-level commands.

All three work around the symptom. The flat autocomplete design
dissolves the problem — there is no payload-size pressure to manage.

## Tests

tests/gateway/test_discord_slash_commands.py — 5 new test cases replace
the 3 old nested-structure tests:

- flat-not-nested structure assertion
- empty skills → no command registered
- callback dispatches the right cmd_key by name
- unknown name → ephemeral error, no dispatch
- large-catalog regression guard (500 skills) — command payload stays
  under 500 bytes regardless

E2E validated against real discord.py 2.7.1:
- Command registers as discord.app_commands.Command (not Group).
- Autocomplete filters by name AND description (verified across several
  queries including description-only matches like 'pdf' → OCR skill).
- 500-skill catalog returns max 25 results per autocomplete query
  (Discord's hard cap), filtered correctly.
- Choice labels formatted as 'name — description' clamped to 100 chars.
gweeteve pushed a commit to gweeteve/hermes-agent that referenced this pull request Jun 2, 2026
…trivially (NousResearch#11580)

Closes NousResearch#11321, closes NousResearch#10259.

## Problem

The nested /skill command group (category subcommand groups + skill
subcommands) serialized to ~14KB with the default 75-skill catalog,
exceeding Discord's ~8000-byte per-command registration payload. The
entire tree.sync() rejected with error 50035 — ALL slash commands
including the 27 base commands failed to register.

## Fix

Replace the nested Group layout with a single flat Command:

    /skill name:<autocomplete> args:<optional string>

Autocomplete options are fetched dynamically by Discord when the user
types — they do NOT count against the per-command registration budget.
So this single command registers at ~200 bytes regardless of how many
skills exist. Scales to thousands of skills with no size calculations,
no splitting, no hidden skills.

UX improvements:
- Discord live-filters by user's typed prefix against BOTH name and
  description, so '/skill pdf' finds 'ocr-and-documents' via its
  description. More discoverable than clicking through category menus.
- Unknown skill name → ephemeral error pointing user at autocomplete.
- Stable alphabetical ordering across restarts.

## Why not the other proposed approaches

Three prior PRs tried to fit within the 8KB limit by modifying the
nested layout:

- NousResearch#10214 (njiangk): truncated all descriptions to 'Run <name>' and
  category descriptions to 'Skills'. Works but destroys slash picker UX.
- NousResearch#11385 (LeonSGP43): 40-char description clamp + iterative
  trim-largest-category fallback. Works but HIDES skills the user can
  no longer invoke via slash — functional regression.
- NousResearch#10261 (zeapsu): adaptive split into /skill-<cat> top-level groups.
  Preserves all skills but pollutes the slash namespace with 20
  top-level commands.

All three work around the symptom. The flat autocomplete design
dissolves the problem — there is no payload-size pressure to manage.

## Tests

tests/gateway/test_discord_slash_commands.py — 5 new test cases replace
the 3 old nested-structure tests:

- flat-not-nested structure assertion
- empty skills → no command registered
- callback dispatches the right cmd_key by name
- unknown name → ephemeral error, no dispatch
- large-catalog regression guard (500 skills) — command payload stays
  under 500 bytes regardless

E2E validated against real discord.py 2.7.1:
- Command registers as discord.app_commands.Command (not Group).
- Autocomplete filters by name AND description (verified across several
  queries including description-only matches like 'pdf' → OCR skill).
- 500-skill catalog returns max 25 results per autocomplete query
  (Discord's hard cap), filtered correctly.
- Choice labels formatted as 'name — description' clamped to 100 chars.
Egavasyug pushed a commit to Egavasyug/hermes-agent that referenced this pull request Jun 10, 2026
…trivially (NousResearch#11580)

Closes NousResearch#11321, closes NousResearch#10259.

## Problem

The nested /skill command group (category subcommand groups + skill
subcommands) serialized to ~14KB with the default 75-skill catalog,
exceeding Discord's ~8000-byte per-command registration payload. The
entire tree.sync() rejected with error 50035 — ALL slash commands
including the 27 base commands failed to register.

## Fix

Replace the nested Group layout with a single flat Command:

    /skill name:<autocomplete> args:<optional string>

Autocomplete options are fetched dynamically by Discord when the user
types — they do NOT count against the per-command registration budget.
So this single command registers at ~200 bytes regardless of how many
skills exist. Scales to thousands of skills with no size calculations,
no splitting, no hidden skills.

UX improvements:
- Discord live-filters by user's typed prefix against BOTH name and
  description, so '/skill pdf' finds 'ocr-and-documents' via its
  description. More discoverable than clicking through category menus.
- Unknown skill name → ephemeral error pointing user at autocomplete.
- Stable alphabetical ordering across restarts.

## Why not the other proposed approaches

Three prior PRs tried to fit within the 8KB limit by modifying the
nested layout:

- NousResearch#10214 (njiangk): truncated all descriptions to 'Run <name>' and
  category descriptions to 'Skills'. Works but destroys slash picker UX.
- NousResearch#11385 (LeonSGP43): 40-char description clamp + iterative
  trim-largest-category fallback. Works but HIDES skills the user can
  no longer invoke via slash — functional regression.
- NousResearch#10261 (zeapsu): adaptive split into /skill-<cat> top-level groups.
  Preserves all skills but pollutes the slash namespace with 20
  top-level commands.

All three work around the symptom. The flat autocomplete design
dissolves the problem — there is no payload-size pressure to manage.

## Tests

tests/gateway/test_discord_slash_commands.py — 5 new test cases replace
the 3 old nested-structure tests:

- flat-not-nested structure assertion
- empty skills → no command registered
- callback dispatches the right cmd_key by name
- unknown name → ephemeral error, no dispatch
- large-catalog regression guard (500 skills) — command payload stays
  under 500 bytes regardless

E2E validated against real discord.py 2.7.1:
- Command registers as discord.app_commands.Command (not Group).
- Autocomplete filters by name AND description (verified across several
  queries including description-only matches like 'pdf' → OCR skill).
- 500-skill catalog returns max 25 results per autocomplete query
  (Discord's hard cap), filtered correctly.
- Choice labels formatted as 'name — description' clamped to 100 chars.
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[Bug]: Discord slash command sync fails: group 'skill' exceeds maximum size (8000)

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