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Yvonne's avatar

I’ve come to the same conclusion- but just now-in the last few months. Greatly appreciate your argument and your experience. You’ve offered here something which has genuine radical potential - by undermining the claims of legitimacy that the illegitimate system makes. Really thanks so much for laying out a new organizing strategy. I hope this idea reaches more and more people.

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I strongly disagree. There will never be a perfect candidate under imperialism.

To me, it's pretty simple to choose the one with populist policies, who did not start any new wars, the one who ordered troops sent home during his term (unless you're going to blame him for his generals' disobeying his command to send them home)... I find it simple to choose the one candidate who frequently met with foreign leaders, instead of talking shit about them and calling them dictators or insisting on their removal from office.

I'll choose the same leader whom the socialist president of Venezuela prefers.

Election stuff is nuanced. To resign yourself to, "they're so bad I won't participate" is giving up your one chance to tell the establishment you reject their degrowth plans. Unless you're cool with them eroding your standard of living. Which I doubt.

You'd see things more clearly if you broke with leftism. There is no future in the left. There is no future in the people and organizations that demonize 50% of Americans.

I understand it is hard for leftists to come to terms with the fact that they are supporting the authoritarian degrowth establishment. But they are doing exactly that, every time Trump and Vance's populism is downplayed or ridiculed they are helping the deep state.

No, there is no perfect candidate. But there is a better candidate and half the country can see that, because they know that university professors and corporate media and hell, more than half of indie media are in the pockets of the very people they should be fighting against.

There is no future in the left. You'd be amazed how much you have in common with Trump supporters, if you just talked with them. You'd be stunned. The few leftists remaining who prioritize economics over id politics would be much happier if they set aside their pre-existing notions of "Trump world" and just talked with Trump supporters. Trump supporters sound like leftists USED to sound, before identity politics and snobby condescension prevailed.

The revolution is coming and the left will be the ones arguing and fighting against the revolutionaries.

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