• An odd drive-by comment hit my blog yesterday. It’s made me think about this wide information divide that has many of us living in separate realities and how that shades every interaction. Like most people, I have close relationships with people who share my values and arms-length ones with people who don’t. Whether you call it an echo chamber or just being human is up to you.

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    For anyone who has read my blog, I’m quite obviously not a conservative and my readers are generally agreeable or silent. It seems pretty pointless to seek out a blog post just to be disagreeable. I don’t even know how a person finds their way to this dusty corner of the internet, but for context, here is the full comment (unrevised or edited):

    Boys in girls lockers, sports and pageants is supporting women’s rights. Makes perfect sense to a hypocrite. And your “pro tip” about “good people” don’t acquire grotesque piles of money and unfettered power—I guess you think the Nancy’s and Chuck’s of your party are just that brilliant, superior, class-act, law abiding individuals of ALL time. Making $300K a year for the last 2 decades and now their worth is in the millions. That’s just good budgeting and investing. Makes perfect sense to a hypocrite. You can’t make up this stuff. Common sense isn’t as common for some. It’s a hard reach for many. Thank GOD not for the majority in this country! #maga

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    Now a lot of people would say just ignore it and if I were not so cursed with critical thinking and a writer’s brain and just self-conscious prickliness, I might. I wrote a long reply to the commenter, interrogating some of her beliefs, explaining why I disagreed and asked her to move along, before blacklisting her (I am nothing if not deliberate in my boundaries). Then I deleted both the comment and the reply, because I like my readers and I like my blog and I don’t need someone pissing propaganda on it.

    But I am also human and can be petty when the moment takes me.

    Her profile pic is of someone who presents as a white, middle aged lady. I know nothing else about her, except her full name and email address, IP address, voter registration, and street address. If I spent more than two minutes on it, I’d know her workplace, social media accounts, and probably the full force of her opinions. This is not a threat, but an observation. Humans are curious creatures by nature – overthinking writers even more so. Many of us are fantastic internet sleuths and spend a lot of time procrastinating writing. Because friends, we are not anonymous in this digital landscape. I am not either and that awareness informs how I conduct myself online (as well as, you know, decency). I try to remain authentic without giving air to my more pernicious thoughts. The election and politics and state of things has had me toeing that line a lot lately, but the gift of writing and editing is that you can find your way around to less combative ways to engage with people.

    Finding my way around or through these times means dealing with my own anger. It’s taking all my energy at the moment, so I’m not willing to deal with anyone else’s – especially if they’re churning out rightwing talking points and coming at people with bile as first contact. I try not to deeply dislike people until I’ve spent some time with them and/or their work.

    It’s a challenge, because the power of bigotry is a power of division. Us versus them. Stacking up our egos and self-esteem and privilege against “others”. We learn to spot the cues, the phrases, the hats, and immediately withdraw into our shells. I don’t have the energy to deal with misinformation and cultish devotees. Talk to me like I’m a person and I won’t treat you like you’re a social contagion. Comment online as if you’re writing to a real person and not an inanimate object for your derision.

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    Since I’m also a reader and would want the full story arc, here was my response:

    Hypocrites reside everywhere and no, I don’t think much of anyone who accrues power and money and does little good.

    It seems weird that you’re coming here to attack me, a tiny little blog in a world of places to go where everyone will agree with you.

    I don’t agree with you. I don’t think persecuting people is a good thing. I don’t think cutting Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security is a good thing. I don’t think firing veterans is a good thing. I don’t think removing women from military leadership roles is a good thing. I don’t think rounding up people and putting them in concentration camps is a good thing. I don’t think lying about Ukraine is a good thing. I don’t think allowing children to die of measles is a good thing. I don’t think not having clean food, air, and water is a good thing. I don’t think incompetency in the form of unelected arrogant billionaires is a good thing. I don’t think stripping away civil and human rights is a good thing. Mostly, I don’t think telling people who to hate while their pockets get picked is a good thing.

    Which of these things have you decided is worth supporting? And what does making America great again mean to you? What’s “again”? When you were a child? When our mothers couldn’t have bank accounts? When there were “Whites Only” establishments? When people were dying of preventable diseases? If you’re willing to spew all that propaganda at a stranger on the internet, I think it’s important to think about what you are parroting and if it is indeed a reflection of who you are as a person. That being said, there is no need to return here. Our first interaction didn’t need to be like this. You could have talked to me like another living, breathing, caring human being. We could have disagreed, but been decent humans. Instead, you chose this.

    I know, I know. Petty. Self-righteous. Indignant. But again, I am a real human being. I interrogate myself daily about my interactions and reactions online and off. There are people blithely walking this planet as if anything they say or do doesn’t matter – just thoughtlessly spewing bile online and getting on with their day. Sometimes they stop by here. But see, Tracy, you DO matter. After all, I wrote a whole blog post about you.

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    Moral of the story: Don’t come at writers. They never stop writing.

13 responses to “This One’s For You, Internet Commenter”

  1. Ellen Hawley Avatar

    The comment’s so incoherent I’d have had a hard time responding in any vaguely sensible way.

    1. Michelle at The Green Study Avatar

      I don’t run across people like this (or at least who talk like this) in real life and always wondered how I’d respond, so writing a reply structured more as query was useful. My reply is a little tightly-wound, but I keep thinking about how it’s so important to stay grounded in reality, especially in the face of absurdity. It’s easy for me to hone in on semantics. The “again” part is always baffling to me. My feeling, too, is that I have to get better at this. It’s a long road ahead and not going to get better in terms of people crawling out from under rocks with their bigotries and cultspeak. The gates are wide open and we have to be prepared to present the argument for a better world.

      1. Ellen Hawley Avatar

        Agreed, but I suspect we’d do best stepping outside the territory they stake out and making our own case. Especially when their territory is incoherent.

  2. Under the mask.. Avatar

    Very good points, Michelle. Many people (not just in ‘Murica) have been propagandized successfully. It’s too much like talking at Moonies; there is no true discussion — and worst of all, some of these are family and friends. It seems sure that there’s going to be a LOT of collateral damage in these coming years (it’s already ongoing for more unfortunate others.) Those who still believe in democracy will be grazed. It’s far less personal than it seems, but it stings.🌷

    1. Michelle at The Green Study Avatar

      I assume that it will escalate to violence, because conservatives have been training their acolytes to see other Americans as the enemy and when people don’t get their government services and money, Republicans will have to deflect the blame again to the most vulnerable groups. I want to be wrong, but history deems it otherwise. One day at a time.

  3. Jeff Cann Avatar

    The Trumpers are clearly emboldened right now. I historically get a dissenting comment about every 18 months. But I’ve gotten 3 of them since the inauguration. I agree it doesn’t make sense to search out a view you disagree with and start a fight, but that’s what trolls do, and while I’d never do it, I guess I’ve known for years that others see it as sport.

    A recent comment I got on my blog went like this: *When you’re on a website to explore music and you stumble on the cult of the soy boys who are resisting but couldn’t defeat a wet paper bag. Guess I’ll drink more Pepsi and laugh at these responses.* I immediately wrote a meanspirited response, but then realized I stooped to their level. I deleted that response and wrote: “LOL, Pretty clever for a Trumper” and left a smiley face. Can’t let these people raise your blood pressure.

    I think your response was spot on, but ultimately probably wasted time if you hope to sway someone. Everyone’s entrenched.

    1. Michelle at The Green Study Avatar

      It’s really hard to engage with bizarre tropes and cliches. They can’t hear how ridiculous they sound. I resent knowing more about them than they do about me, but that is how the media is framing everything (rural diner interviews, etc.) and while they get siloed in their media ecosystems, we can’t miss getting sprayed with conspiracy theorists and people who are anti-science, misogynist, racist, and deliberately unpleasant humans.
      I don’t think responding to people with these views is about swaying them. It’s about the bystanders seeing things through a different lens. However, it is definitely a choice whether or not to engage. No right answers on that, as our lives and energy and time are limited. One can hope that we spend more time doing affirmative work versus tangling with people who need to be deprogrammed by experts. It is very sad. That American Life episode “10 Things I Don’t Want to Hate About You” was difficult to listen to – so much lost to grifters and con artists.

  4. Gail Tracy Avatar

    Someone had nothing better to do than to poke you with a stick and watch your reaction. There are people who think they know everything, so there’s no way to tell them anything. I dislike how rude and impersonal people have become through social media. Are we still human? What is meant by certain buzz words and phrases like hypocrite, women’s rights, and great again, is nothing more than words strung together to accuse and confuse. The commenter used the phrase common sense but doesn’t know what it means. Somehow it becomes clearer that great again means to take away women’s rights, civil rights, and make women, people of color, and foreigners subservient. There is nothing great about total patriarchal rule and living under a monarch/dictator. AGAIN.

    1. Michelle at The Green Study Avatar

      People have become so reflexive about their anger that it just pours out everywhere compulsively. No self-awareness at all. And I’ve got real desire to go scorched earth with white women who think the tide is not coming for them. A sense of self-preservation, or raising daughters, should have compelled some of them to think through the logical consequences of electing misogynists. But now they’re just going to be spiteful and bitter and spray it on the world.
      I’m okay being poked, because I can handle it. If by handle it I mean writing ridiculously long essays processing my experience of being poked. Writers, eh?

  5. kioratash Avatar

    A beautiful writer. A good sincere person. Just keep lifting us up. How do we stitch sorrow and love together and find our way? I would guess it is moment by moment, word by word. My brushes with history remind me that we have been at this for a while.

    I want to imagine a world small enough and wise enough to form a compassionate community. I am reminded of someone else’s dream.

    Thank you Michelle .

    1. Michelle at The Green Study Avatar

      Ah, Kiora, you attribute to me things I fear may not be in evidence at times! But definitely agree with your point about taking things moment by moment, word by word. The nice thing about that is that we have multiple opportunities when we can course-correct, fix our hearts, change our minds.

  6. triciatierney Avatar

    Oooh! That’s a great response! But yes, we must keep our boundaries, save our energy. Keep the poison at bay. And yes, never stop writing.

    1. Michelle at The Green Study Avatar

      I’ve realized that writing is a critical part of my ability to establish boundaries and dissipate the poison. Sometimes overthinking is a gift. Other times, maybe not!

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