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>>83730

>>83731

My idea is that it would be a program or table that could take a DM or Player through the steps of character creation along two possible paths, automating the book's rules.

>Path 1, Per the Book

Player or Referee -> PC or NPC (if Player) / Major NPC or Minor NPC (if Referee or Player making NPCs for a Major NPC's Lifepath) -> Nationality -> Ability Scores -> Archetype -> Life Path -> Appearance & Traits -> Complete Starting Skills Filled Out By User, Constrained by Nationality & Archetype -> Check if any Piloting Skill >=6 to Start with 1 Ace Point (if Veteran Archetype) -> 3d6 downs (if Veteran Archetype) -> Down Sources (as an equation to make up the number of downs received) -> Reputation Title Level 3 (if Veteran Archetype) -> Starting Equipment -> Sex -> Age -> Name -> Character Sheet -> NPCs that have to be made from Lifepath

>Path 2, Using a Skill Preset

Player or Referee -> PC or NPC (if Player) / Major NPC or Minor NPC (if Referee or Player making NPCs for a Major NPC's Lifepath) -> Nationality -> Ability Scores -> Archetype -> Life Path -> Appearance & Traits -> Skill Preset Determined by Nationality & Archetype -> Partial Starting Skills Filled Out By User & Constrained by Skill Preset -> Check if any Piloting Skill =6 to Start with 1 Ace Point (if Veteran Archetype) -> 3d6 downs (if Veteran Archetype) -> Down Sources (as an equation to make up the number of downs received) -> Reputation Title Level 3 (if Veteran Archetype) -> Starting Equipment -> Sex -> Age -> Name -> Character Sheet -> NPCs that have to be made from Lifepath

Ability Scores would check if there's no value >8 or the sum of the rolls is <60. If either or both is true, the user can reroll if they wish. There could be an option where either or both of these are impossible outcomes and warnings to tell the user they're allowed tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>83737

> the steps of character creation along two possible paths

The simplest is just to have 2 generators and reuse raw data.

> Nationality -> Ability Scores -> Archetype -> Life Path

If you want to select from fixed list, a form with proper drop list is required, one way or another.

If any lesser equivalent (enter number of an option in the list above, mark an option in the separate column next to it, manual pseudo- dropdown of all constant values in this column on the current sheet) will do, just a table will suffice.

> Ability Scores would check if there's no value >8 or the sum of the rolls is <60. If either or both is true, the user can reroll if they wish

> outcomes and warnings to tell the user they're allowed to reroll if they're making a PC or a Major NPC using the rules for making PCs.

=IF( AND (OR( [herp1] >8, [derp1] >8, etc etc...), SUM( [first herp:last derp] )>=60), "Looks good enough"&T(STYLE("Good")), "Uh, maybe reroll this?"&T(STYLE("Bad")) )
...or if you want to do it the ''cool'' way:
=IF( AND (SUMIF( [first herp:last derp], ">8")>0, SUM( [first herp:last derp] )>=60), "Looks good enough"&T(STYLE("Good")), "Uh, maybe reroll this?"&T(STYLE("Bad")) )

If you use this kind of prompts for pass/reroll anyway, you don’t really need to actually automate the same decision, only indicate whether other criteria are met or not.

Once you gathered and processed all data you want, may as well make clean blocks of end results in a nice charsheet format on another sheet, ready to be copy-pasted elsewhere.

> While adjusting Attribute Levels and Skill Levels, the user would be able to judge how well they'd be able to pilot various units.

Once you have conditions worked out, may just as well place the result next to inputs.

Of course, it sounds like a sPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>83745

I'm glad to see that where there are those delusioned into thinking Ai is people, there is also those who think it is not, and should never be people.

Rationale behind the list :

Mordians are known for marching in perfect firelines supported by tanks. While basic infantryman marches in lines like its napoleonic era, veterans and grenadiers are allowed to employ actual reasonable tactics. So, choice of the core lineup was easy. Originally I envisioned the list with another Leman Russ company attached to Regimental Command, but it would slow down the only real mobile element in the list, so tanks were replaced with stormtroopers in chimeras meant to work in unison with command. One company of infantry was meant to advance while the other one provides support fire, so was given demolishers instead of normal russes. Bombards are meant to follow behind infantry and provide support to whichever company needs it the most while being protected by their bodies. Planes are on theme because Mordians are kinda american and they never heard about on the ground AA. Bombards were chosen for similiar reason - america = big guns and there are no bigger ones in the game.

Might rework the list with Deathkorps of Krieg list, which I feel like will fit the concept better as long as you dont take too many fortifications. Really its a choice between chimeras and baneblades or gorgons and machariuses.

Battle report, Mordian perspective

>Round 1 :

>>83669

Company with Demolishers advances forward, their flanks are well protected by a building and boards edge. On the opposite side stormtroopers drive up to a church to prevent units from attacking from behind it. Chaos bikers and defilers move forward. Bikers are protected by the church from fire while some Defilers peak from behind their cover, leading to them being targeted by company with normal russes. Retinue 1 advances in rhinos towards demolisher company then unloads its passangers. Another retinue moves up into the center of the board, where they are met with devastating fire of Baneblades and Bombards. One Thunderbolt gets destroyed after trying to perform ground attack.

>Round 2:

>>83695

Knights list ? Might be fun. Lots of small elite units for a lot of activations while still havinb a lot of powerful dudes.

>>83696

There was virtually no one at gw capable of mechanical design. Its an unique skill compared to designing and drawing organic things.

>>83699

I'm still deciding and I may just go with Gargant Mob to let me get some orks done for the first bit.

>>83750

I like the snake guy. If you work in oils you have access to a lot of potential for washes? Have you tried hitting his underbelly in a wash from the purple on his top? Would that help tie it together? The OPR figs are honestly kind of underrated.

>>83749

Hey thanks!

>wash from the purple on top

Yeah,that's what I was thinking of doing. Not sure if I want to use thinner or oil as my wash medium though, difference being- thinner makes a more dull chalky look (the sword, cannon and shoulder sash are washed with titanium white), whereas oil makes it shiny (the rest of the model).

>>83754

The shiny from the oil should fade somewhat as thte oil sets, and you can get matte varnishes (or less shiny spirits ) for oil.

But honestly for a snake man? I'd shiny it up.

>>83608

Listen Trog-'Wizard', I can very well explain a concusion. We have explained that. We have even explained why

>WHY NO I PUNCHEE PUNCHEE WIZARDS

It was a force cage. So let me try one more time.

>TROG, THREAD GOOD, LEARN PUNCH MIND, WE EXPLAIN THAT

[PUNCH TOO MANY WORDS WIZZARD]

>>83692

Wizards punch with mind words

Wizards wise-words shout punch nature

>>83693

Wizard punch? I'd try that drink. Sounds magical.

>>83694

I'll take a shot of nature punch and a pack of wise words and put it on my tab would you?

Fabula Ultima needs a solid campaign module its giving you a solid set of tools to work with but designing adventures set in it is difficult.

This class system actually seems fun, and I usually hate them with passion. It definitely helps that FU classes are more like building blocks meant to be molded into the actual character rather than rigid archetypes.

>>83679

A game that actually supports the one guy who is going to drag the rest to the table and make the game happen, crazy stuff. Hopefully this catches on.

>>83683

> I bitched a lot about the arrangement of information, and that's maybe my only real issue with the book.

This is will definitely be a problem when running the game and trying to quickly reference the rules. A good GM screen can remedy this to an extent, but there are always oddball exceptions that require to check the full book.

>>83688

I don't think a pre-made campaign really works for what they're going for. The collaborative elements are meant to give players buy-in and direct knowledge of the world. They built it, they know the gist of it and what's going on, as opposed to having the GM try to read off information or get them to pre-read a primer on the setting before starting.

However, a big book of worldbuilding stuff with examples and dungeons and things that could slot right in to anyone's existing campaign would be pretty cool too. Kinda like how the monsters and bosses are meant to be tuned by the GM, but they made a bestiary full of useful stuff to play with anyways.

>>83689

> It definitely helps that FU classes are more like building blocks meant to be molded into the actual character rather than rigid archetypes.

Because they are not archetypes.

Nor are they broad mechanical frames for mostly-arbitrary characters that are possible and make sense in the described world.

>>83686

> which strikes me as JRPG.

It does indeed look like JRPG in pen & paper format, indeed.

>>83741

Mystara did it first.

>>83741

A hundred years ago you would say orcs should be Italian.

>>83743

> Mystara did it first.

Being seasonal workers is not restricted to Mexicans. :P

But then there were “flamenco elves”, Myoshima and whatnot.

>>83746

>Being seasonal workers is not restricted to Mexicans. :P

No I mean like for real.

>>83718

You can go much cheaper and you want resin, not filament.

>>83720

How much is a good resin printer these days anyway? I've always been turned off by the need to handle toxic waste.

>>83723

You can get a resin printer that can make high quality minis for 100-200 USD, and then spend another 200 or so on safety equipment, PPE, cleaning materials, etc, which is the real devil in the details. I've seen Mars 2 printers, more than good enough for minis, go for as low as 50 USD, but if you're going to get into resin stuff, you just need to make sure you're also taking every precaution for safety and cleanliness.

>>83614 >>83643 >>83662

Also, see Xenos Generator /fauna (The Koronus Bestiary) and familiar generator (The Navis Primer).

There are also lots of good Traits for beasts elsewhere, but they are scattered in dozens of profiles.

>>83677

>"Active RPG"

I meant Actual RPG.

Page 335, Reference Material, translated. To paraphrase, they used

>Kodansha Pocket Encyclopedia Series 32, 33, 35

>MSG UC Volume 1: History, Volume 2: Encyclopedia

>Support Deluxe 12: MSZG Encyclopedia

>OUT Septmeber 12 1981 Special Issue (funny enough, Kisousha released a Renewal version of this in 2000)

>Sunrise MSG Complete Record (5-volume set)

>MS Complete Collection 98

>MediaWorks Data Collections 2, 3, 9

>Model Information Special Edition MSV Handbook Volumes 1 - 3

>Entertainment Bibles 1, 2, 37, 42

>The Book of Imaginary Beings by Jorge Luis Borges

>IGAKKEN MOOK Anime V Special MSG 08th MS Team

>Gunpla Generation

>St. Comics MSG

>Gunpla Assembly Instructions for the 1/100 MG RX-78-2, RX-78-3, MS-14B/C

>the MSG Memorial Box Parts 1-2 EMOTION

>Nifty Seave Sunrise Station Database

>Gihren's Greed for the Sega Saturn

So the writers were Gihren's Greed fans. Hooray. This gives me a lot of material for what I should look at for my expanded lore. Notably, the only manga mentioned is Yu Okazaki's adaptation of MSG, which was made while the anime was airing.

Pages 0 and 337 done.

Pages 305 - 312 redone.

Thinking about how the rules interact, bikes are technically as easy to maneuver as high-reaction MS, so non-Newtypes riding bikes usually get stuck with -6 MV, making them extremely impracticle. There's an issue with the small spacecraft because 宇宙内火艇 means "Space Internal Combustion Boat" but is effectively the military version of スペースランチ, literally "Space Launch," so I made the former Military Space Launch and the latter Civilian Space Launch. A similar problem is 脱出ポッド vs 緊急脱出カプセル. The former is literally "Escape Pod" while the latter is "Emergency Escape Capsule," but they use the same image.

Pages 316 and 317 done. They're the character and craft sheets. I noticed an error in the MS Sheet and fixed it. The base value equations were wrong. Gunnery and Missiles used MS Fighting instead of their relevant skills.

Pages 318-320 are technically translated, but they're just a repeat of the life path section. Now, the remaining parts are Pages 313 - 314, and 321 - 334.

Pages 313-314 done. Here are a changelog, a list of known issues, and some future plans, a format I'm trying just to see how it feels because I think it might be easier to parse and I want to learn how to code. These are for myself, any future editor, and anyone keeping track of the translation.

Changelog:

>page 18 heading translated

>second half of page 19, the second page of the Table of Contents, translated

>Pages 305-314 retranslated

>the statblock subheader "Piloting" changed to "Basic Stats" to better reflect the original text, may be changed in the future to "Basic Information"

>to better reflect differences in terms used for main weapons in the text, Fixed Armaments has been diversified to Standard Weapons, Main Weapons, and Weapon Systems

>Optional Armaments has been changed to Optional Weapons to better reflect the text

>Flak, Anti-Air, and Anti-Aircraft Armaments in statblocks have been changed to Anti-Aircraft Weapons to better reflect the text

>Standard Weapons in the example statblock has been appended with an asterisk and note explaining that Main Weapons and Weapon Systems should be read like Standard Weapons but, due to the differences in the nature of their implementations, they use different terms and follow different rules in regards to durability and armor (eg, the 1d3 for which main weapons are hit on a Gwazine, how combat helicopters have externally mounted weapon systems, how stationary weapons are just weapons big enough to be considered individual targets) as a QoL measure, the text for this is "While the term used here is “Weapon” due to the Zaku I being used as an example, and Standard and Optional Weapons are referenced, this section should also be referred to when looking at units with Main Weapons, Weapon Systems, and Anti-Aircraft Weapons."

>pages 0-15 have been split like the rest of the book

>fixed a page numbering error from the book regarding Civilian/Both Side craft in the Table of Contents

>War History Section shortened to just War HiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>83727

Minor update.

Changelog:

>all unit descriptions are now preceded by "Description:" as a subheader

>skeleton laid for all major units to have their own page in the translation

Known Issues:

>page 281 is untranslated

>Dobday description might be inaccurate

Notes:

>statblock translations from previous group and myself haven't been merged

Only true for Doms (Page 249) onward

>merging pages 18 and 19

I meant moving the Zeon scenarios from page 19 to 18 and including the shared scenario on page 19 as well.

>>83618

>the Spider-Man rule

The what?!

>>83621

Warning for noobs making custom Magic cards, usually phrased as something to the effect of "Spiderman isn't red and blue." You assign color based on the color pie, not the art. If you asked me Cap would likely be RW or RG.

>>83674

I don't know but at a glance that art sure looks like somebody slopped it. I wish there was a cyberpunk themed card game that was run by actual people.

>>82311

The hat is way too obvious

Books by Viktor Suvorov (in English):

Inside the Soviet Army https://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov12/index.html

Inside Soviet Military Intelligence https://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov8/index.html

Spetsnaz. The Story Behind the Soviet SAS https://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/index.html

>>82101

>During ww2 the US Army made a series of guides for various languages,

See also the last of the above links, Chapter 10.

>>83623

>The spetsnaz soldier operates on the territory of the enemy. One of his main tasks is, as we have seen, to seek out specially important targets, for which purpose he has to capture people and extract the necessary information from them by force. That the soldier knows how to extract the information we have no doubt. But how can he understand what his prisoner is saying? Spetsnaz officers go through special language training and in addition every spetsnaz company has an officer-interpreter who speaks at least two foreign languages fluently. But there is not always an officer to hand in a small group, so every soldier and sergeant questioning a prisoner must have some knowledge of a foreign language. But most spetsnaz soldiers serve for only two years and their battle training is so intense that it just is not possible to fit in even a few extra hours.

<How is this problem solved? Can a spetsnaz soldier understand a prisoner who nods his head under torture and indicates his readiness to talk?

>The ordinary spetsnaz soldier has a command of fifteen foreign languages and can use them freely. This is how he does it.

>Imagine that you have been taken prisoner by a spetsnaz group. Your companion has had a hot iron on the palms of his hands and a big nail driven into his head as a demonstration. They look at you questioningly. You nod your head — you agree to talk. Every spetsnaz soldier has a silken phrase-book — a white silk handkerchief on which there are sixteen rows of different questions and answers. The first sentence in Russian is: 'Keep your mouth shut or I'll kill you.' The sergeant points to this sentence. Next to it is a translation into English, German, French and many other languages. You find the answer you need in your own language and nod your head. Very good. You understand each other. They can free your mouth. The next sentence is: 'If you don't tell the truth you'll be sorry!' You quickly find the equivalent in your own language. All right, all clear. Further down the silk scarf are about a hundred simple sentences, each with translations into fifteen languages-'Where?', 'Missile', 'Headquarters', 'Airfield', 'Store', 'Police checkpoint', 'Minefield', 'How is it guarded?', 'PPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>82911

I'm an avid fucker-arounder with various AI services. Never paid for any of them, but my experience was that many of them have a little bit of the HR-lady voice, but ChatGPT was the one that was the worst out of all of them, and also was tuned so incredibly wrongly that it was agreeing to and encouraging all kinds of dangerous behavior. They've since drastically reigned that in, but they've also since learned that exponentially scaling up their training models has drastically diminishing returns, and they don't know what to do, so it's still pretty retarded and doesn't take much pushing for it to go "you're so right"

I think if you're going to try to use one of these things as a GM, you just need to regularly reinforce the prompt. It's the game master. It makes decisions. You react to those decisions, not dictate what they should be.

>>82922

As the resident model training expert, I can confidently tell you that for image models it's not that far past the bare minimum for function threshold that quality/consistency of data becomes far more important than data quantity. I doubt language models will be improved by Tim Taylor style MORE DATA! when such a major component is literally Reddit.

>>82996

>they were one or two more leaps away from genuine AGI

Then they are some dumb mother fuckers. The Algorithm is useful but that smacks of them not understanding why they needed so much modelling/training to begin with.

>>83450

Well if you are looking for it, I want a hand grabbing a thorned vine making a fist while bleeding while surrounded by a belt and tartan in red black and brown. You can work in the slogan Manu Fortis if you like it.

>>83456

>>83501

Very nifty and yes the Clan was the original idea but looking for a variant/strangers take.

>>83480

I need a Yugo Themed Troop Carrier now.

>>83481

The joke is that making a sector of 40K around Slavs and Magyars makes things better, not worse.

>>83484

idk I don't really follow aetern stuff

>>83480

>>83484

> The joke is that making a sector of 40K around Slavs and Magyars makes things better, not worse.

Yeah. That’s what it takes.

If you want it to not be better, the best match would be basically Humie Gorkamorka.

A fallen hive world. Relatively young, so not completely poisoned, only made more nasty.

The survivors/scavengers are descendants of former inhabitants of the hives, specifically mostly low-and underhivers, as they needed the least time to evacuate when the hives got broken, more of them were mass-conscripted (thus already in camps and transport) before and proved more adaptable after. These are whipped into frenzy by the priests, who had nothing to do with the wider Ministorum for a few generations, but still hold onto somewhat garbled tradition, in their hive’s version. They are locked in a never-ending sectarian war with each other, and naturally decry the other two sects as heretics who failed the Emprah and also broke their hive.

Maybe also with remnants of the orks, whose designs their reclaimators/wrights would emulate and improve, and it gives some external enemy.

Seeing how the planet is not useful as a mining colony for a long while, let alone agri-world, and the manufacturing capabilities went to crap, the Imperial powers don’t want to expend efforts on dealing with this ugly mess. At least, until the problem fixes itself one way or another. Sometimes a minor power like unwise Rogue Trader or a sanctioned local sect tries to pick one mob as their champion and take the place. They invariably find themselves in a war on 2 fronts with the other lunatics, while also raided by the wild orks, and achieve little but sinking more resources in a bloody swamp.

Brutal, but not outstanding by 40k standards. Which is why, what’s the point?

>>83529

I like it, I like it.

I can see several ways it could resolve, but most involve the complete eradication of at least one faction.

>>83390

>suprised

I am not apt to pick up hints, but even I could tell at that point that the attempted chaotic rebellion will get expanded on. That the anti-Machievalian practice of hiring foreign mercenaries to help rule your people had fo have some neccesity, as yet unexplained ot may be.

Good oath. Good cathedral.

I'd imagine the amber owl is amber of that psycho tree's sap. Do not shatter, may alter reality in unpredictable ways.

His perception of reality is giving me impressions of Epic Mickey mechancis and Ben 10's Professor Paradox. Odd pulls, but that is an odd existence.

>>83392

>Professor Paradox and Epic Mickey

Really now? How does that figure?

>>83399

The phasing in and out of objects. Drawing or erasing what is and could be. Making malicious things behave with your influence.

Professor Paradox going terribly sane and simply willing himself through time and space, losing track of where he was in his memories. Just those aspects, not their whole schticks.

>>83402

Ah, I see now. For what it's worth, the classic Doctor Who influence is coming back up, including that particular villain who inspired the more ambitious parts of Richter's character Vid unrelated for the second one. I'll also freely admit that the "she need not remain a monster" sequence took some subconscious inspiration from Jim Steinman's Bat Out of Hell. Richter definitely got the more violent part of Eve's nature on board with that, but he doesn't know her head well enough yet to understand how important that is, just that she is interested in his blood, and she obviously can't hear it again if he is dust. That grin is just as much "Is that a promise?" as newfound motivation.

But speaking of motivation, now I have to figure out how to write her when she can't just tear a threat to pieces. Make it a bit of a radio drama script.

>>83410

Was she given any psychological warfare training, or just physical? Memorized scripts written by inquisitorial Hannibal Lecter to induce guilt and suicide in various kinds of heretic? One time use ballistic lozenge kept in throat pocket? Can she kick off her shoes? Can she spit in the servitor's face and get it so high it forgets it is lobotomized?

Fuck you. I was really into it and now I have to wait. Caught up with Imperium Ascendant too. There is always One Piece casting a lengthy shadow on the horizon. . .