John Worrall, ZeroNorth CEO, expands on the "why" of DevSecOps, focusing on the business benefit, gain and measurement of what we seek to accomplish through DevSecOps. John advocates we concentrate on the process and data enabling us to assess risk, prioritize the most beneficial security work. Learn more about ZeroNorth athttps://www.zeronorth.io.

Maximizing The Benefits of DevSecOps, ZeroNorth

Description for Podcast page: Mitchell Ashley and Alan Shimel are once again hosting the Devops.com podcast. In this episode they discuss "the good news of DevOps". Gene Kim weighs in on why he changed the name of DOES. Also how Jenkins is still relevant if not dominant today and what we can expect to see there. Of course we had to discuss GenAI and DevOps, well because AI.

Links Referenced in Podcast:

https://devops.com/the-future-of-jenkins-in-2024/
https://devops.com/jenkins-and-jenkinsx-in-2024/
https://devops.com/using-llms-to-automate-pipeline-conversions-from-legacy-to-tekton/
https://techstrong.tv/videos/interviews/wiring-the-winning-organization-with-gene-kim

DevOps, Jenkins and GenAI

Mitch and Alan discuss Dagger's Solomon Hyke interview on modernizing DevOps pipelines the current realities of open source, the growth in software supply chain attacks and the value of doing smaller code reviews.

Links Referenced in Podcast:

https://devclass.com/2024/02/12/from-docker-to-dagger-solomon-hykes-on-modernisation-of-the-devops-pipeline/

https://devops.com/the-practicalities-of-open-sourcing

https://devops.com/survey-cyberattacks-aimed-at-software-supply-chains-are-pervasive

https://devops.com/improve-efficiency-with-smaller-code-reviews

Modernizing DevOps Pipelines, Open Source and Supply Chain Security

In this episode of DevOps Chats, Alan and Mitch dive deep into the heart of DevOps. After 12 years of DevOps evolution, we're asking the big question: How has our investment in DevOps paved the way for organizational success in the years to come? This segment promises a thought-provoking look at the achievements, challenges, and road ahead for DevOps enthusiasts. They discuss DevOps insights expected to be part of the upcoming Techstrong Research "DevOps Next" report. 

They also share Mitch's interview with Ben Potter, Head of Product at Coder, where he sheds light on the game-changing world of cloud development environments.

Whether you're a DevOps veteran or new to the scene, this episode has insights and stories that will enrich your understanding and spark your imagination. Join us as we explore the cutting edge of DevOps and cloud development only on DevOps Chats.

Links Referenced in Podcast:
 https://techstrong.tv/videos/interviews/cloud-dev-environments-coder-ben-potter

DevOps Past, Present, Future and Cloud Development Environments

Alan and Mitch debate whether AI can make "no shift" vs. shift left a viable future testing software in production, the "five great DevOps job opportunities" series on DevOps.com, TabNine generative AI testing platform now adds your code into the LLM to generate tests and whether DevOps should be open-ended or have an end goal.

Links Referenced in Podcast:
https://devops.com/forget-shift-left-why-no-shift-is-the-future-of-software-innovation/
https://devops.com/five-great-devops-job-opportunities-77/
https://devops.com/tabnine-extends-generative-ai-testing-platform-by-embracing-rag/
https://devops.com/devops-whats-the-end-goal/ 

No No-Shift, DevOps Jobs, AI Tests Your Code, DevOps End Goal

Alan and Mitch discuss whether platform engineering will be "the game changer" some predict will happen in 2024, the evolution of CI/CD frameworks (ArgoCD, Tekton), and Mitch's interview with Cole Kennedy, TestifySec CEO, about securing software from source to production.

Links Referenced in Podcast:

https://devops.com/platform-engineering-the-2024-game-changer-in-tech
https://devops.com/driving-the-devops-evolution-argocd-tekton-and-seamless-migrations https://techstrong.tv/videos/interviews/securing-source-to-production-with-testifysecs-cole-kennedy

Platform Engineering in 2024, CI/CD Frameworks and Securing Source to Production

Alan and Mitch discuss several AI and DevOps topics, including the debate of whether DevOps failed us or if platform engineering is ignoring history; Tabnine is a Microsoft copilot alternative to generate code ; and does your Gen AI get mentally stuck on one path of thinking.

Reference Links: 

Tabnine:
https://devops.com/tabnine-extends-gen-ai-platform-for-writing-code-to-multiple-llms

AI:
https://devops.com/your-ai-might-be-lying-to-you

DevOps Platform Debate, Copilot Alternative and Did your AI lose its mind

After being on the conference circuit for weeks, Alan and Mitch explore whether GPT-4o might show the way for new web and mobile experiences, the upheaval happening in open source and what happens when business models and financial interests force business licensing changes and move away from the spirit of open source.

GPT-4o, Open Source Clashes With Benevolent Capitalism

In this episode of DevOps Chats, Alan Shimel and Mitch Ashley discuss the rapid integration of AI co-pilots in software tools, emphasizing the need for a unified AI interface to streamline user experience. They explore the evolving concept of DevSecOps, advocating for a holistic approach that includes both software development and underlying toolchain security. The chat also teases upcoming research reports on DevOps trends and AI's role in the industry.

AI in DevOps: From Co-Pilots to Future Trends

Integrating AI Co-Pilots and DevSecOps

Mitch and Alan discuss what's required to take a holistic approach to software supply chain security and how DevOps has not only survived, but thrived as it's adapted over the years and helped for new XOps variations and platform engineering.

DevOps Thrives and Software Supply Chain is the SBOM

After a brief podcast hiatus, Mitch and Alan discuss why it isn't a DevOps versus platform engineering debate. Rather, platform engineering helps scale DevOps, among PE's many, many benefits. They discuss the launch of platformengineering.com and its new podcast. They also delve into the debate about AI's impact on software development.

Platform Engineering Scales DevOps and the AI Dev Bubble

 In this episode of DevOps Chats, Alan speaks with Patrick Debois, the man who coined the term DevOps to talk about his new passion AI NativeDev. Beyond giving it a name, Patrick has always been one of the leading lights of the community. After 12+ years in DevOps thought, Patrick’s enthusiasm was starting to wane. AI has reignited that and his creative juices are flowing freely. He has joined in the new AI NativeDev community that is really catching fire. Here what they are about and what has Patrick so excited in this episode

AI Native Dev: Shaping the Future of AI-First Software Development - DevOps Chats Episode 12

Omed Habib is a Director of Product Marketing at AppDynamics. Omed actually has an engineering background and is really sharp. We had a great discussion on Maslow's Theory of Happiness and how it relates to developers, ops and DevOps.

You never know what you will learn about on a DevOps Chat ;-) Hope you enjoy!

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Maslow's Theory of Happiness & DevOps w/ Omed Habib, AppDynamics

Dr. Nicole Forsgren, founder and CEO of DORA, DevOps Research and Analysis will be speaking at DOES London on June 5th and 6th to announce the findings of this years State of DevOps Survey. She will be joined by Jez Humble (her co-founder at DORA) and Nigel Kersten of Puppet.

Dr. Forsgren gives us her take on why DOES is a special event for her and what we might see in this years survey analysis.

Dr. Nicole Forsgren, DORA

When doing research around launching DevOps.com, one of the most interesting and leading figures in the DevOps movement was Damon Edwards. It has always been a goal to sit down with Damon for a DevOps Chat. While having interviewed him numerous times for DevOps TV, for this chat, Damon joins us to discuss Rundeck(https://www.rundeck.com)and how it is helping flesh out the Ops in DevOps. 

Damon is super knowledgeable and well versed in this and other areas, so this chat is a really informative episode. Enjoy!

Putting the Ops in DevOps, Rundeck with Damon Edwards

Mark Schwartz is one of the rare individuals who is not only a great IT exec but can also analyze what works and doesn't work and write it up in a way that helps others.  His "A Seat at the Table" is still one of my favorite DevOps books.

Mark's new book is called War, Peace & IT.  You can download an excerpt of it here: https://dl.orangedox.com/WarPeaceITExcerpt

We speak with Mark about the book and some of the lessons behind it. Have a listen and check out the book ASAP

New Book: War, Peace, IT by Mark Schwartz

DevOps and Agile are all about making software cycles short and dynamic, empowering development teams to rapidly iterate, leveraging tools with fewer burdens and reliance on outside organizations. It's the dev + ops combination that is so powerful.

But what about security, specifically the identity of physical and virtual devices, containers and micro services? Digital certificates are a key asset in managing device identity but traditional tools and processes may not fit the speed and dynamic nature of today's cloud native software.

Our guest on DevOps Chats is Sandra Chrust, Senior Product Marketing Manager at Venafi. Sandra shares with us lessons learned to more easily manage device identities in DevOps and Agile environments, leveraging tools that provide self service portals, APIs and SDKs for automation. No more support tickets!

Device Identity At The Speed of DevOps, Venafi

On a project to move one of Google’s Fortune 500 customers to Google Cloud, Google Kubernetes Engine (GKE), and Spinnaker open source, our DevOps Chat guest ran into the message “hang tight". No scripts or documentation. Not to be delayed, Miles Matthias, Google Cloud Consultant with Container Heroes, filled the gap and contributed his work back to the Spinnaker community.

This episode of DevOps Chats features a preview of Mile’s talk, “Monitoring Spinnaker with Prometheus Operator on GKE” he is is giving on Saturday, November 16th, 3:45 pm PT, at Spinnaker Summit 2019. Miles also talks quite a bit about Canary testing in this episode.

Monitoring Spinnaker with Prometheus on GKE, Spinnaker Summit 2019

Sometimes the best way to accomplish something is to choose a path requiring the least friction, or amount of change. 

Qualys customers now have that path available to them in bring vulnerability scanning into Google Cloud Platform. Qualys' recent announcement means a one-click configuration change enables vulnerability scans in GCP with the results appearing in both Qualys Cloud Center and GCP Security Command Center. 

Join me on this DevOps Chats to explore this announcement with Sumedh Thakar, Qualys President and Chief Product Officer. We discuss Qualys' and Google's collaboration and how this benefits DevOps teams.

One-Click Vulnerability Scan Integration with Google Cloud Platform, Qualys

Brian Gracely has been helping to shape the Red Hat OpenShift product line for over 4 years.  Brian is a key person in the product team there. 
In this podcast Brian gives us an update on the latest innovation at OpenShift.  Much of what he is talking about will be visible or announced by KubeCon in Amsterdamn. So if you want to get an early look at the latest in Openshift, have a listen to what Brian has to see.

DevOps Chats

Red Hat OpenShift Update w/ Brian Gracely

Many companies are responding to the large number of people working from home as a result of the public health situation. Today Qualys rolled out a totally free 60 day version of their cloud-based security and compliance solution at no charge.

We spoke with Sumedh Thakar about the free release and how Qualys is helping enterprises with their remote workforce.

Free Remote Endpoint Protection From Qualys

When the cloud first caught on there was a problem with Shadow IT. Developers spinning up instances in AWS without the IT team knowing they existed. Now with the ease of CI/DC automated deployments, the problem of Shadow Code has arisen.  Code being added to apps that did not go through the entire team process.

In this DevOps Chat we speak with Elad Koren, VP of Product at Perimeter X about the Shadow Code issue and how his company can help.

Shadow Code Security w/ Perimeter X

strongDM wasn't founded to help with remote workers forced out of the office by COVID19. They have been around for 5 years now. But they do excel at allowing you to manage and audit remote access to all of your assets including DBs, servers and clusters (as well as apps and services) anywhere from anywhere.

In this DevOps Chat we speak with strongDM Justin McCarthy, CTO & Co-Founder about how the company's technology works and how it is helping companies move to remote access given current conditions.

Get more information at https://www.strongdm.com/

Make Work-From-Home Easy as Pie w/ strongDM

In this episode, Mitchell Ashley and Alan Shimel are joined by Caroline Wong, CSO at Cobalt.io (https://cobalt.io), Andrew Van Der Stock, executive director at OWASP, and Dr. Grigori Melnik, CPO at Tricentis, to discuss DevSecOps and AppSec.

DevOps UnBound DevSecOps/AppSec

The assumption that large, established enterprises — from insurance companies to government agencies— can’t adopt Agile processes or DevOps is based on the falsehood that legacy technology stacks won’t allow for it; that existing traditional mainframe applications or legacy applications that large enterprises are built on are incapable of adapting to these approaches. 

Accelerated Strategies Group recently released the new research report 5 Crucial DevOps Strategies For Cloud and Mainframe 2020, sponsored by ASG Technologies. In this episode of DevOps Chats, Jeff Cherrington and Anna Murray with ASG Technologies joins Mitch Ashley (CEO, Accelerated Strategies Group) to explore how mainframe app teams embrace DevOps, processes and tools to equip software teams, so mainframe apps continue to provide businesses with vital systems and capabilities far into the future.

Download the report at https://library.devops.com/5-crucial-devops-strategies-for-cloud-and-mainframes

DevOps For Cloud and Mainframes, ASG Technologies

DevOps has not only reached mainframe groups in the enterprise but also to large applications such as SAP. Organizations are moving away from waterfall methods and mega releases that take many months to deliver. What's needed are many more rapid release cycles and deployments that support the accelerating pace necessary to do business. 

David Lees, CTO of Basis Technologies, joins MediaOps CEO Alan Shimel to explore how organizations implement DevOps into their SAP integration and deployment cycles. Having lived through this transition, David shares his unique perspectives on the necessity to break through bottlenecks and make changes in supply chains, finance and many other business processes needed to support the business.

Bringing DevOps to SAP, With Basis Technologies

ITIL is well established as the process, certification and information resource library for service management across many IT organizations globally. With the recent updates comprising to ITIL 4, influences from Agile and DevOps are helping ITIL to expand and adapt to changes in how create software and build operations into the delivery process.

Akshay Anand, Product Ambassador with AXELOS Global Best Practice, and Jon Stevens-Hall, Principal Product Manager at BMC Software, join Accelerated Strategies Group CEO Mitch Ashley to discuss the new innovations in ITIL 4. As major contributors to ITIL 4, Akshay and Jon share the approach they took with ITIL 4, incorporating ideas from the world of Agile and DevOps.

ITIL 4 in the Age of Agile and Devops, Axelos

Akshay Anand, ITSM product ambassador at AXELOS, and David Crouch, senior advisor at Beyond20, join ASG CEO Mitch Ashley to share best practices and learnings from introducing and adopting Agile and DevOps in large organizations. Akshay and David discuss overcoming change management challenges and obstacles to increase adoption.

ITIL 4 - Introducing & Adopting Agile + DevOps in Large Organizations

Mark Smalley of Smalley.IT, and Lead Editor with Axelos of the ITIL 4 High Velocity, IT joins ASG CEO Mitch Ashley to discuss his work creating this new contribution to ITIL 4. Mark shares the 5 value investments important for organizations seeking to operate at high velocity and some of the insights gained from himself and others covered in this ITIL 4 module.

ITIL 4 - Achieving High Velocity IT, AXELOS

Mitchell Ashley of ASG and Alan Shimel are joined by Ming Gong of UST Global, Chris Rolls of TTC and Robina Laughlin of Guardian Life for a discussion on outsourcing DevOps.

Some say you really can't outsource DevOps, others say of course you can. Have a listen and decide for yourself

devops unbound

Outsourcing DevOps: Oxymoron or Truth?

Observability and Accessibility are two keys to successful app development and deployment. They are also square within the sweet spot for DevOps teams to consider as part of delivering better applications better and faster.

In this episode 7 of DevOps Unbound we are joined Sean Kelly of Trcentis, Paul Pinkney of Swisslog Healthcare and Paula Goyanes of LaunchDarkly to discuss accessibility and usability design in DevOps.

DevOps Unbound

DevOps Unbound: Observability & Accessibility

"DevOps Chats" by Techstrong Group, the force behind industry-leading platforms like DevOps.com, Cloud Native Now, Security Boulevard, Techstrong.ai, DigitalCxO, and Techstrong.TV, is your premier destination for all things DevOps. Hosted by industry veterans Alan Shimel and Mitchell Ashley, this podcast series delves deep into the world of DevOps, bringing you the latest trends, innovative strategies, and insightful discussions that matter.

Each episode of "DevOps Chat" is a journey through the evolving landscape of DevOps, featuring interviews with thought leaders, practitioners, and change-makers who are shaping the future of technology. Whether you're a developer, operations professional, IT leader, or tech enthusiast, Alan and Mitchell ensure you stay informed, engaged, and ahead of the curve.

From continuous integration and delivery to cloud-native development and cybersecurity, "DevOps Chat" covers the spectrum, offering valuable lessons, expert advice, and engaging stories. Tune in to explore how DevOps principles and practices are transforming the tech industry, driving efficiency, enhancing security, and fostering innovation.

Join us at "DevOps Chat" for your regular dose of DevOps insights, inspiration, and community. It's not just a podcast; it's your gateway to the forefront of the DevOps movement. Subscribe now and be part of the conversation that's setting the pace for the future of technology.

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