{"id":42367,"date":"2024-07-17T05:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-07-17T12:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/idthefuture.com\/?p=42367"},"modified":"2024-10-15T13:59:33","modified_gmt":"2024-10-15T20:59:33","slug":"1929","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/idthefuture.com\/1929\/","title":{"rendered":"Sleeping and Waking: A Designer&#8217;s Gift"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Are we to credit an unguided evolutionary process for the gift of sleeping and waking? Or are these intricate systems further evidence of design? On this <strong>ID The Future<\/strong>, host Andrew McDiarmid concludes his conversation with Dr. Eric Hedin on the intelligent design of sleep. In Part 2, the pair dig deeper into the purpose of sleep and why it\u2019s so essential to living organisms. They also look at why it\u2019s unlikely that a gradual Darwinian process can be credited for the origin of sleeping and waking, and why intelligent design is a better explanation. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In an effort to pierce the mystery, some scientists have posited that organisms came prepackaged to sleep, and that we only needed to evolve wakefulness. But Hedin thinks the process of waking up is an even bigger obstacle for evolution to produce than falling asleep: &#8220;Honestly, if the coordinated physiological and neurological processes necessary to produce sleep seem daunting from natural processes to have them originate without a designer, then producing wakefulness, which is associated with consciousness, with its attendant qualities of mind&#8230;seems completely beyond the reach of any Darwinian mechanism.&#8221; Instead, Dr. Hedin argues that the processes of sleeping and waking exhibit a complex engineering design known as the push-pull principle. He rounds out the interview by explaining why intelligent design is a better explanation for the phenomenon of sleep than an evolutionary process.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is Part 2 of a two-part discussion. <a href=\"https:\/\/idthefuture.com\/1928\/\" class=\"ek-link\">Listen to Part 1<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Dig Deeper<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Read the articles by Dr. Hedin that inspired this interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/evolutionnews.org\/2023\/12\/sleep-designed-for-our-good\/\">Sleep: Designed For Our Good<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/evolutionnews.org\/2023\/12\/sleeping-and-waking-a-designers-gift\/\">Sleeping and Waking: A Designer\u2019s Gift<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>And here&#8217;s Hedin&#8217;s latest on the topic: <a href=\"https:\/\/evolutionnews.org\/2024\/07\/consciousness-at-odds-with-the-flesh\/\" class=\"ek-link\">Consciousness &#8211; At Odds With the Flesh<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>The image used for this post is a painting by 19th century French impressionist artist <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Eva_Gonzal%C3%A8s\" class=\"ek-link\">Eva Gonzales<\/a> called &#8220;Sleep.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Are we to credit an unguided evolutionary process for the gift of sleeping and waking? 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