{"id":36444,"date":"2007-08-17T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2007-08-17T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/idthefuture.net\/podcast\/chance-encounter-denyse-oleary-and-by-design-or-by-chance\/"},"modified":"2025-07-10T12:02:59","modified_gmt":"2025-07-10T19:02:59","slug":"162","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/idthefuture.com\/162\/","title":{"rendered":"Chance Encounter: Denyse O&#8217;Leary and\u00a0By Design or By Chance"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>In this episode of ID The Future, CSC&#8217;s Casey Luskin interviews journalist and author Denyse O&#8217;Leary about the Darwin-ID debate, her writing career, and her book <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20120419021122\/http:\/\/www.designorchance.com\/about.html\"><i>By Design or By Chance?: The Growing Controversy on the Origins of Life in the Universe<\/i><\/a>. O&#8217;Leary describes how David Berlinski&#8217;s 1996 piece <a href=\"https:\/\/www.discovery.org\/a\/130\/\">The Deniable Darwin<\/a> first introduced her to the dispute between intelligent design and Darwinian evolution. Her subsequent research and writing on this topic eventually led to her 2004 book <i>By Design or By Chance<\/i>, which presents an unbiased and journalistic view of the controversy. O&#8217;Leary concludes with a discussion about other facets of her career, including the nature of her research and the criticism she has received as a journalist writing about intelligent design. Stay tuned to ID The Future for more interviews with Denyse O&#8217;Leary.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p><b>About Denyse O&#8217;Leary<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Denyse O&#8217;Leary is a Canadian journalist who has written on science-related topics for many years. Based in Toronto, O&#8217;Leary has written a number of books in addition to <i>By Design or By Chance?<\/i> including the award-winning <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Faith-Science-Needs-Twenty-First-Century\/dp\/1896239838\/ref=sr_1_7\/103-0085900-4806212?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1187372818&amp;sr=1-7\"><i>Faith@Science: Why Science Needs Faith in the Twenty-First Century<\/i><\/a>, and her forthcoming book <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Spiritual-Brain-Neuroscientists-Case-Existence\/dp\/0060858834\/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1\/103-0085900-4806212?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1187372876&amp;sr=1-1\"><i>The Spiritual Brain<\/i><\/a>. She also contributes to a number of blogs including <a href=\"https:\/\/uncommondescent.com\/\">Uncommon Descent<\/a>, which focuses on intelligent design.<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"In this episode of ID The Future, CSC&#8217;s Casey Luskin interviews journalist and author Denyse O&#8217;Leary about the Darwin-ID debate, her writing career, and her book By Design or By Chance?: The Growing Controversy on the Origins of Life in the Universe. O&#8217;Leary describes how David Berlinski&#8217;s 1996 piece The Deniable Darwin first introduced her to the dispute between intelligent design and Darwinian evolution. Her subsequent research and writing on this topic eventually led to her 2004 book By Design or By Chance, which presents an unbiased and journalistic view of the controversy. 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