Summary
I’d like to propose a non-interrupting "side question" workflow for cases where the main task is still running, but I want to ask something in the same chat that may be completely unrelated to the main task.
I’m opening this as a design/alignment issue first because there seems to be a product-semantic question here, not just an implementation question.
Current state
/btw
/btw <question> already exists and is documented as:
Ephemeral side question using session context (no tools, not persisted).
From the current implementation, /btw:
- uses current session/conversation context
- runs with
enabled_toolsets=[]
- uses
skip_memory=True
- uses
persist_session=False
- does not write the side exchange back into the main session history
So /btw is good for contextual follow-up questions, but not necessarily for a question that is unrelated to the current task.
Busy-session behavior
There is already an open issue about /btw not bypassing the active-session guard during active runs:
Prior /side attempt
There was also a previous closed PR proposing /side:
That PR’s behavior was roughly:
- run during active tasks without interrupting them
- no tools
- no persistence into the main session
- still use current session context
The design question
Should Hermes support a detached side-question command for unrelated questions during active runs?
The concrete use case is:
- the main task is busy and should keep running
- I want to ask a quick question in the same chat
- the question may be unrelated to the main task
- I do not want that side question to contaminate the main task’s context/history
Proposed semantics
I think there are two distinct concepts here:
-
Contextual side question
- uses current session history
- good for "by the way, what does this part of the current task mean?"
- this is close to what
/btw already does
-
Detached side question
- does not inherit current session history by default
- does not interrupt the active task
- no tools
- not persisted to the main session
- returns asynchronously to the same chat
- good for "while this is running, answer something unrelated"
Possible directions
Option A — keep /btw contextual, add /side as detached
/btw = contextual ephemeral side question
/side = detached ephemeral side question
Option B — extend /btw with an explicit detached mode
Example:
/btw <question> = contextual
/btw --detached <question> = detached
Option C — make /btw detached by default and add an explicit contextual variant
I think this is probably the most confusing option, but including it for completeness.
My preference
I’d currently lean toward Option A:
- keep
/btw as the contextual "by the way" command
- add
/side as the detached/non-interrupting command for unrelated questions
That seems to make the distinction the clearest:
/btw = related to current context
/side = parallel/unrelated side question
Why I’m asking before implementing
Because the main uncertainty here is semantic overlap:
I’d prefer to align on product behavior first, then implement whichever direction maintainers prefer.
If this direction sounds reasonable
I’m happy to prepare a PR after confirmation, including tests for:
- command registration/help
- active-session bypass behavior
- running-agent bypass behavior
- no persistence into the main session
- detached-vs-contextual semantics
Summary
I’d like to propose a non-interrupting "side question" workflow for cases where the main task is still running, but I want to ask something in the same chat that may be completely unrelated to the main task.
I’m opening this as a design/alignment issue first because there seems to be a product-semantic question here, not just an implementation question.
Current state
/btw/btw <question>already exists and is documented as:From the current implementation,
/btw:enabled_toolsets=[]skip_memory=Truepersist_session=FalseSo
/btwis good for contextual follow-up questions, but not necessarily for a question that is unrelated to the current task.Busy-session behavior
There is already an open issue about
/btwnot bypassing the active-session guard during active runs:Prior
/sideattemptThere was also a previous closed PR proposing
/side:That PR’s behavior was roughly:
The design question
Should Hermes support a detached side-question command for unrelated questions during active runs?
The concrete use case is:
Proposed semantics
I think there are two distinct concepts here:
Contextual side question
/btwalready doesDetached side question
Possible directions
Option A — keep
/btwcontextual, add/sideas detached/btw= contextual ephemeral side question/side= detached ephemeral side questionOption B — extend
/btwwith an explicit detached modeExample:
/btw <question>= contextual/btw --detached <question>= detachedOption C — make
/btwdetached by default and add an explicit contextual variantI think this is probably the most confusing option, but including it for completeness.
My preference
I’d currently lean toward Option A:
/btwas the contextual "by the way" command/sideas the detached/non-interrupting command for unrelated questionsThat seems to make the distinction the clearest:
/btw= related to current context/side= parallel/unrelated side questionWhy I’m asking before implementing
Because the main uncertainty here is semantic overlap:
/btwshould become available during active runs/side, but with contextual behaviorI’d prefer to align on product behavior first, then implement whichever direction maintainers prefer.
If this direction sounds reasonable
I’m happy to prepare a PR after confirmation, including tests for: