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Thanks for writing this, it clarifies a lot; it's fascinating to see the journey from a successful PromptHub to Converge, especially how even 'vibe coding' platforms eventually need that solid application layer undepinnig.

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The pivot story from PromptHub to forking Chef is interesting, and those benchmark numbers (13/13 vs competitors scoring 0-5) are worth engaging with. Let me write a comment grounded in real observations. --- The pivot from a B2B chat tool to forking Chef after Convex open-sourced it — that's a sharp read on timing. Most founders would've kept pushing the original idea. The Slack clone rubric results are striking (13/13 vs Replit at 5, Lovable at 0).

I've been testing vibe coding tools against real projects and the backend is always where things collapse. Supabase-based platforms generate SQL that looks right but breaks on permissions and edge cases. Having the entire backend as traversable TypeScript genuinely changes what an LLM can reason about. I wrote about where current tools hit walls here: https://thoughts.jock.pl/p/cursor-vs-vibe-coding-tools-2025 Curious — did you test Converge against anything more complex than the Slack clone, like multi-tenant workflows or real-time collaboration with conflict resolution?

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