{"id":333351,"date":"2009-08-23T11:47:51","date_gmt":"2009-08-23T11:47:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/breslev.com\/%d7%9c%d7%9c%d7%90-%d7%a7%d7%98%d7%92%d7%95%d7%a8%d7%99%d7%94\/meat-and-slaughter\/"},"modified":"2024-07-23T12:01:40","modified_gmt":"2024-07-23T09:01:40","slug":"meat-and-slaughter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/breslev.com\/333351\/","title":{"rendered":"Meat and Slaughter"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2><span style=\"color: #000080; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">7. Do not eat the limb of a living animal<\/span><\/h2>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\">For Gentiles and Jews alike, what we consume impacts our spiritual health, which may come as a surprise for some.\u00a0Remember, God gave laws about what humans were to consume, or not consume, from the beginning.\u00a0Prior to the flood humans were not to consume meat.\u00a0After the flood these laws were added to- meat was allowed but only if the animal was totally without life prior to dissection.\u00a0When Moses received the Torah the dietary laws were further refined for Jews.\u00a0Kosher eating for Jews is much more restrictive.\u00a0Certain animals could not be consumed by Jews.\u00a0Certain mixtures became forbidden for Jews.\u00a0Certain methods of slaughter had to be employed on animals to be consumed by Jews.\u00a0Gentiles need to follow only the dietary law given to Noach, not the further refinements given for Jews.<\/span><\/div>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/h2>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\">It is important to internalize that God gave laws to Gentiles <i>and<\/i> to Jews and that these laws may be different.\u00a0Gentiles can guilt free consume all kinds of food that is not appropriate for Jews to consume.\u00a0It does not harm us spiritually.\u00a0It does harm a Jew spiritually.\u00a0<b>There is no reason for a Gentile to feel obliged to take on a law that God created for a Jew.<\/b>\u00a0Some Gentiles and Jews choose to take on additional stringencies for a variety of reasons.\u00a0This should be done carefully.\u00a0Many recommend consulting with a rabbi before doing so.\u00a0And we should certainly not feel pressured or pressure others into taking on an additional stringency, whether it relates to diet or anything else.<\/span><\/div>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/h2>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\">Of course, Gentiles may consume kosher food without harming themselves spiritually. \u00a0On the contrary, a Jew may not consume non-kosher food without inflicting spiritual harm unless under very specific and extreme circumstances. It may surprise you to learn that some Jews were so profoundly committed to kosher eating that even in Nazi concentration camps they ate kosher as much as possible.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\">Torah rules about diet, for Jews and Gentiles, are about spiritual health. They have nothing to do with trichinosis, what clogs arteries, or levels of heavy metals in certain types of fish, etc. Kosher food may be physically healthy or physically unhealthy. A kosher steak may be fine from a spiritual perspective but terrible for you physically. Fried shrimp may be fine for a Gentile to consume in terms of spiritual health, but terrible for his or her physical health.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\">Land animals are meat. Fish is not meat. Foul is not meat from a Torah perspective. But, and this is an important point, from a rabbinic perspective foul is meat for Jews and therefore for Jews it can not be mixed with dairy. For Gentiles, this is not an issue.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\">Gentiles may eat shellfish.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\">Gentiles may mix dairy and meat, dairy and foul, dairy and fish.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\">The method of slaughter employed for meat to be consumed by a Gentile should be humane. And the limbs of the animal should no longer be moving before it is dissected.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\">Fish are considered dead when they are removed from water.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\">It is fine to be a vegetarian for health reasons, out of distrust of method of slaughter or cleanliness of slaughter houses, or because meat is gross to you from a taste perspective. However, it is not cruel to slaughter an animal humanely for the purpose of human consumption. One need not become a vegetarian out of kindness to animals from a Torah perspective.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\">On the other hand, we should not wantonly extinguish any life, plant or animal.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\">Pork, technically speaking, is totally fine for a Gentile to eat.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/h2>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\">How do we know if land animals are humanely slaughtered and that the meat was taken after the limbs of the animal have ceased movement?\u00a0This is a very complex and important question.\u00a0As with many questions in Judaism the answer you get depends upon the rabbi you ask.\u00a0And the answer may depend upon where on earth you are located and from whom you are purchasing meat.\u00a0One perspective is that in the United States we have rules about humane slaughter and inspectors who ensure that these laws are followed, therefore Bnei Noach can eat meat from USDA inspected slaughter houses without worry.<\/span><\/div>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/h2>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\">Another perspective is that these facilities are too great in number, process such large quantities of meat, and are so infrequently inspected that it is not safe for a Ben or Bat Noach to eat the meat from these facilities.\u00a0Therefore we should be purchasing kosher meat, which unfortunately is much more expensive and means that pork is out, clearly.\u00a0Or we can eat vegetarian, with fish.\u00a0So what are we to do?<\/span><\/div>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/h2>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\">Rabbi Brody makes the following suggestions: He agrees with the view that for land animals processed in a non-kosher manner the meat is often taken from the animal when the limbs are still moving or that it would be pretty much impossible to ensure this law was being followed.\u00a0Therefore, when purchasing meat from a land animal, to be on the safe side, purchase kosher meat.\u00a0What about foul?\u00a0From Rabbi Brody\u2019s perspective Gentiles should feel free to purchase non-kosher.\u00a0Fish is not an issue.<\/span><\/div>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/h2>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\">Can Bnei Noach eat meat that comes from a hunted animal?\u00a0The type of animal is not an issue for Bnei Noach from a technical perspective.\u00a0But the type of slaughter is problematic.\u00a0From a cruelty perspective it is not acceptable.<\/span><\/div>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/h2>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\">Some countries may have more thorough laws with regards to slaughter and better inspection.\u00a0Some countries may have almost zero oversight.\u00a0Therefore, we must pay close attention to this issue depending upon where on earth we find ourselves.<\/span><\/div>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/h2>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\">As I stated earlier, this is a complex issue.\u00a0Meat doesn\u2019t always come from huge slaughter houses, even in the US.\u00a0There are boutique farms where animals are fed carefully, are free range, and may be handled very carefully in the slaughtering process.\u00a0There are small ranchers and farmers who are invested in humane and small scale production of meat for the market.\u00a0We are city folk, but know people who raise and slaughter their own chickens.\u00a0Clearly in other parts of the world where people live more closely to the land people often own and slaughter their own mammals, or hire a person to come to their place to process the animal for them.\u00a0With such close supervision it could easily be possible for the animals to be processed appropriately for Gentiles to consume even under a very careful approach to this law.\u00a0This is not a one-answer-fits-all question.<\/span><\/div>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/h2>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\">This is a surface treatment of a very complicated subject.\u00a0Because ignorance of the law is not an excuse for a misdeed, we need to learn as much as we can about this subject.\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<h2><\/h2>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\">***<\/span><\/p>\n<div><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><i>The primary sources for this article are the books:<\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><i><strong><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Seven-Colors-Rainbow-Yirmeyahu-Bindman\/dp\/1568716443\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2XC7Q5N5SMPKP&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.fSX1qJAfMmjRpU9FfrBoKKXlLImtbvZdC7ItAtMJ_EbGTZEj1s865SgHoRANW-E_eQ-KZt9ethxPxvGkYI11N_RCiPAklhH8oG-PExL0y8L5hy1pKIGPmFcK8BSXTHZeYAIA-xYi1CJeqoYaB34CTf3d8T8PAijJYOXnoSYxZ0OLAdVWs0FzCYnVexfHiHeaJjGDEfxrci_ufi5JMVHqVT46m3OGJng5Bv74dUwfiPg.EA94LILgv4AwDMfWVzHD57prsGvTAHBSBu2hnQJkS3Y&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=seven+colors+of+the+rainbow&amp;qid=1721723764&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=seven+colors+of+the+%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C233&amp;sr=1-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Seven Colors of the Rainbow: Torah Ethics for Non-Jews<\/span><\/a>, <\/strong>by Rabbi Yirmeyahu Bindman<\/i><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><em><span style=\"color: #000080;\"><a style=\"color: #000080;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Seven-Laws-Noah-Aaron-Lichtenstein\/dp\/1602803676\/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1S1OCT35729EY&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.pwWKriPFkB9DQ4xPlm7NAuJApVruSqeR5aDS7kNkrUSu-nk1cJK4LRxLgT_VEiRVjVrf0y5lIP79vs0cd_9GZAvzV0t74FWB39XkTOOs_LuS9GPZJWYf5CYiwXdFZpA0Yw4VUhpTXMyWJJKq1afJ_YTm5BPdvWleZ-CXVGt8PXw9qqOG02AH5rGmHLoNcpHdQAUr5S8boyqtbm_6hL_-JdZ4Phf6fgzGdinpLMrdp7M.6LPOIycamzlthPABHEAz98EPuLdZ00TLDnzsb3j6qjc&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=the+seven+laws+of+noah&amp;qid=1721725204&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=the+seven+laws+of+noach%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C217&amp;sr=1-4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>The Seven Laws of Noach<\/strong><\/a><\/span>, by Aaron Lichtenstein<\/em><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><em>Two books by Chaim Clorfene and Yakov Rogalsky:<\/em><\/span>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000080; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #000080;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Path-Righteous-Gentile-Introduction-Children\/dp\/087306433X\/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3C1AW6NIS3IDE&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ihLmPj8OUlInpqZNqnXyQ0It8kUlmPlIO3WV8s1C0s7In_8oBnB5IYKLb_QPCanimha6mJmRxILQWfXERg0tlA.d6broWk-lw4eLacC0_9w_qzrJ9g_FRgf54RSnVAQHDg&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=The+Path+of+the+Righteous+Gentile&amp;qid=1721721991&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=the+path+of+the+righteous+gentile%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C206&amp;sr=1-2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Path of the Righteous Gentile: An Introduction to the Seven Laws of the Children of Noah<\/a><\/strong><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\"><a style=\"color: #000080;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Path-Righteous-Gentile-Practical-Guide\/dp\/1533699550\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3C1AW6NIS3IDE&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ihLmPj8OUlInpqZNqnXyQ0It8kUlmPlIO3WV8s1C0s7In_8oBnB5IYKLb_QPCanimha6mJmRxILQWfXERg0tlA.d6broWk-lw4eLacC0_9w_qzrJ9g_FRgf54RSnVAQHDg&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=The+Path+of+the+Righteous+Gentile&amp;qid=1721721991&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=the+path+of+the+righteous+gentile%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C206&amp;sr=1-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>The Pat<\/strong><\/a><a style=\"color: #000080;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Path-Righteous-Gentile-Practical-Guide\/dp\/1533699550\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3C1AW6NIS3IDE&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ihLmPj8OUlInpqZNqnXyQ0It8kUlmPlIO3WV8s1C0s7In_8oBnB5IYKLb_QPCanimha6mJmRxILQWfXERg0tlA.d6broWk-lw4eLacC0_9w_qzrJ9g_FRgf54RSnVAQHDg&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=The+Path+of+the+Righteous+Gentile&amp;qid=1721721991&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=the+path+of+the+righteous+gentile%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C206&amp;sr=1-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>h of th<\/strong><\/a><\/span><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Path-Righteous-Gentile-Practical-Guide\/dp\/1533699550\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3C1AW6NIS3IDE&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ihLmPj8OUlInpqZNqnXyQ0It8kUlmPlIO3WV8s1C0s7In_8oBnB5IYKLb_QPCanimha6mJmRxILQWfXERg0tlA.d6broWk-lw4eLacC0_9w_qzrJ9g_FRgf54RSnVAQHDg&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=The+Path+of+the+Righteous+Gentile&amp;qid=1721721991&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=the+path+of+the+righteous+gentile%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C206&amp;sr=1-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000080;\">e Righteous Gentile: A Practical Guide to the Seven Laws of Noah<\/span><\/strong><\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><em><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/em><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/userfiles\/image\/English\/24\/2swansp.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"340\" height=\"204\" border=\"1\" \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;\"><i>Any meat or fowl is fine for Noahides, as long as it\u2019s not taken from the bird or animal while it\u2019s still alive.<\/i><\/span><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>7. Do not eat the limb of a living animal For Gentiles and Jews alike, what we consume impacts our spiritual health, which may come as a surprise for some.\u00a0Remember, God gave laws about what humans were to consume, or not consume, from the beginning.\u00a0Prior to the flood humans were not to consume meat.\u00a0After the &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/breslev.com\/333351\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Meat and Slaughter&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":62109,"featured_media":4153244,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_joinchat":[],"footnotes":""},"categories":[15152],"tags":[63235,16508],"author_post":[14278],"new_serie":[86731],"class_list":["post-333351","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-noahide-world","tag-7-noahide-laws","tag-noahide","author_post-alice-jonsson","new_serie-the-seven-noahide-commandments"],"acf":{"intro_text":"<p>The seventh Noahide Law is the prohibition against eating meat that was taken from an animal while it was still alive. 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