who exists?

@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

It proves you've lost the plot.

Excellent.

Best observation that can be made about Jasper's arguments right now.

@Frank Apisa,

The science and philosophy I have stated is TOTALY sound.

We are not consciousness as atheistic science claims in its total ignorance and unawareness.

Natures science and philosophy has revealed it.

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@Jasper10,

Jasper10 wrote:

We are not consciousness.

No, no, he has a point! What do we fear mon ami, what do we fear?

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@Agent Smith,

Agent Smith wrote:

My queen, your majesty, you have to reread the material, whatever it is, that made you come to this (vide OP) most intriguing conclusion.

Da Queen left the room on Aug 28, 2017.

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@Jasper10,

Jasper10 wrote:

The science and philosophy I have stated is TOTALY sound.

We are not consciousness as atheistic science claims in its total ignorance and unawareness.

Natures science and philosophy has revealed it.

Jasper10 wrote:

Frank,

If anyone or anything asserts that they/it exists or doesn’t exist then they/it exists.

I disagree totally.

YOU may assert that you exist...but that does not mean you exist. And YOU MAY assert that you do not exist...but that also does not mean you exist.

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They or it will or won’t be alive.

I have no idea of what you are trying to say here, but it sounds to me just an attempt to pretend you are more evolved than I.

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@Frank Apisa,

A something that exists can assert that it exists and does not exist.

YOU.

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@Jasper10,

Jasper10 wrote:

A something that exists can assert that it exists and does not exist.

YOU.

You are losing it, Son. Get under control. I don't want you embarrassing yourself because of me.

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@Frank Apisa,

I am not losing it at all Frank.

You make the rules up to suit yourself.

I just point out the areas where your logic fails you.

You exist Frank

You may not be alive just like a computer isn’t alive but you still exist.

You can exist and still be dead.

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@Jasper10,

Jasper10 wrote:

I am not losing it at all Frank.

You are losing it big time, Jasper. Stay under control. Internet forum rule number one: Do not embarrass yourself.

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You make the rules up to suit yourself.

I just made up Rule number one. But you ought to heed it anyway.

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I just point out the areas where your logic fails you.

You point out the areas where you erroneously suppose my logic fails me. Your logic is so poor, you ought to stay away from evaluating logic quality.

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You exist Frank

That is an assertion you cannot substantiate, Jasper.

YOU do not KNOW that I exist. You do not even know if my name is Frank.

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You may not be alive just like a computer isn’t alive but you still exist.

As I said...YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT.

Stop...while you are behind.

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You can exist and still be dead.

Whatever!

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@Frank Apisa,

You can exist and still be dead Frank…

Sleep on it.

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@Jasper10,

Jasper10 wrote:

You can exist and still be dead Frank…

Sleep on it.

I have not disputed that, Jasper.

As I said, you really ought to stop while you are far behind.

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@Frank Apisa,

Remember Frank you CAN’T cancel things out ,you can only BALANCE things out and to do that you require equal and opposite assertions on BOTH sides of the fence such that one view completely covers the other view.Both views being separate.

I am not far behind anything.

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@Jasper10,

Jasper10 wrote:

Remember Frank you CAN’T cancel things out ,you can only BALANCE things out and to do that you require equal and opposite assertions on BOTH sides of the fence such that one view completely covers the other view.Both views being separate.

What are you babbling about here...and why are you doing it?

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I am not far behind anything.

You are...very far behind.

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@Frank Apisa,

I am not babbling on Frank.

It’s all related to “inward” only dualistic meditation.

Ask a Buddhist.They’ll explain it to you.

You know, the crowd who believe SELF is an illusion.

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@Jasper10,

A group who says anyone claiming to be Buddhist is a Buddhist.

Besides, Buddhist don't claim the world is an illusion. They say any claim of understanding the world is an illusion, a condition called Maya.

Like George Harrison once sang, "Beware of Maya"

Watch out now
Take care, beware of falling swingers
Dropping all around you
The pain that often mingles
In your fingertips
Beware of darkness

Watch out now
Take care, beware the thoughts that linger
Winding up inside your head
The hopelessness around you
In the dead of night
Beware of sadness

It can hit you
It can hurt you
Make you sore and what is more
That is not what you are here for

Watch out now
Take care, beware of soft shoe shufflers
Dancing down the sidewalks
As each unconscious sufferer
Wanders aimlessly
Beware of Maya

Watch out now
Take care, beware of greedy leaders
They'll take you where you should not go
While weeping Atlas Cedars
They just want to grow, grow and grow
Beware of darkness (beware of darkness)

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@bobsal u1553115,

They claim that SELF is an illusion Bobsul all derived from their inward only out of consciousness synch dualistic meditative practice.They only know about inward only dualistic meditation.They have no idea about outward meditation.Nothing at all.

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@Jasper10,

Jasper10 wrote:

I am not babbling on Frank.

You do not realize you are babbling. But you are.

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It’s all related to “inward” only dualistic meditation.

Whatever it is related to...it is still babble.

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Ask a Buddhist.They’ll explain it to you.

They will babble their guesses about the REALITY.

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You know, the crowd who believe SELF is an illusion.

They are free to guess whatever they want to...and you are free to accept their guesses.

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@Frank Apisa,

I do not babble Frank.

I explain things perfectly clearly.

You've been left behind with your out of date and flawed philosophy.

Firstly, you need to learn the difference between spectator science and player science.

Secondly, you need to learn more about consciousness and awareness. You never mention them in you flawed philosophy.

Thirdly, I use the term hope and have no need to guess or refuse to guess whilst you use the term guess or refuse to guess and hope in a refusal to guess on one side of the fence.

All you have is a hope Frank like everyone else, not a guess or refusal to guess.

You either have hope or you are without hope.

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This poor porky pie still exist in this cosmos today….and wants to say something…
Piggy feels philosophy is that kind of thing to argue who’s the true G* / “Lord of creature”…
What physics cares is how to solve specific problems…
That “authentic” rabbit Dandan said in PHF the half – life of elementary particles such as proton is billions of years. Piggy wonders how he knows that. Piggy’s physics model demonstrates elementary particles such as proton never can decay. Particles which can decay are all synthetic particles. They would not exist long.
Piggy thinks a wasp is synthetic too. So, he would “decay” in a few years, no matter how true he consider himself as perfect “hyper” Lord.

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@Jasper10,

Jasper10 wrote:

I do not babble Frank.

I explain things perfectly clearly.

You've been left behind with your out of date and flawed philosophy.

Firstly, you need to learn the difference between spectator science and player science.

Secondly, you need to learn more about consciousness and awareness. You never mention them in you flawed philosophy.

Thirdly, I use the term hope and have no need to guess or refuse to guess whilst you use the term guess or refuse to guess and hope in a refusal to guess on one side of the fence.

All you have is a hope Frank like everyone else, not a guess or refusal to guess.

You either have hope or you are without hope.

You are a babbler, Jasper. That seems to be just about all you do...BABBLE.

The notion that you explain things "perfectly" is so absurd, even you should be laughing at it.

Anyway, in the other thread where you are babbling, I asked you a question. Let's see if you avoid it (as you do most questions)...or if you answer it clearly, without the babble bullshit.

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