Scientific explanations for creation

He's going to end by asking how "something" could come from nothing. The answer is that just because it's complicated, that's no reason to think it's magic.

Even some scientists say stuff like -

Even some scientists say stuff like -
"When I began my career as a cosmologist some twenty years ago, I was a convinced atheist, I never in my wildest dreams imagined that one day I would be writing a book purporting to show that the central claims of Judeo-Christian theology are in fact true, that these claims are straightforward deductions of the laws of physics as we now understand them. I have been forced into these conclusions by the inexorable logic of my own special branch of physics."- Frank Tipler (Professor of Mathematical Physics), 1994 The Physics of Immortality. New York, Doubleday, preface.

Even some scientists say stuff like -
...Frank Tipler (Professor of Mathematical Physics), 1994 The Physics of Immortality. New York, Doubleday, preface.

George Ellis, writing in the journal Nature, described Tipler's book on the Omega Point as "a masterpiece of pseudoscience ... the product of a fertile and creative imagination unhampered by the normal constraints of scientific and philosophical discipline", and Michael Shermer devoted a chapter of Why People Believe Weird Things to enumerating what he thought to be flaws in Tipler's thesis. Physicist Sean M. Carroll thought Tipler's early work was constructive but that now he has become a "crackpot". And in a review of Tipler's The Physics of Christianity, Lawrence Krauss described the book as the most "extreme example of uncritical and unsubstantiated arguments put into print by an intelligent professional scientist".

Rosborne said: "Some scientists are idiots..."

Please try again. I would be truly interested if you could really come up with a rational perspective in which a "God" could be understood by science.

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Rosborne said: "Some scientists are idiots..."

Yes I know, Dawkins certainly strikes me as one.
Incidentally I got College of Preceptors exam passes in General and Advanced Science in 1963, I bin around..

PS- that pro-God Tipler quote is just one by a number of scientists, here's another-
"A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature."-Fred Hoyle (British astrophysicist): The Universe: Past and Present Reflections. Annual Review of Astronomy and Astrophysics: 20:16

I would be interested if you could come up with a perspective in which 'GOD' could be understood by humans. It's always amazed me that man can conceive of a being that can create the universe and then define that being in human terms.

Brandon said: Can you solve a physics problem involving a block sliding down an inclined plane?

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Brandon said: Can you solve a physics problem involving a block sliding down an inclined plane?

Nah mate i'd much rather do something useful like splitting the atom..

Neologist said: All that thinking! So much effort! And then to be expelled!
I feel for you, Romeo!

I was expelled from school for refusing to play their silly maths games about "blocks sliding down planes" and algebra and geometry and stuff because i regarded it as a complete waste of time, I was a tough little sonofabitch even in those days!
I regarded my brain as a hard drive and didn't want to clutter it up with junk...

Can you solve a physics problem involving a block sliding down an inclined plane?